The only reason I use my Kodak Zi8 and Zi6 is because I feel comfortable
using them. The quality only comes into play when I want to do something for
my family. 

Ernmander


On 23/10/2009 14:16, "Rupert Howe" <rup...@twittervlog.tv> wrote:

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>  
>  
> 
> OK.  I've got to get this off my chest.
> 
> I think that HD is massively overrated for shooting videoblog posts of
> people talking.
> Or even videoblog posts of pretty things.
> That beautiful video I posted by Jay the other day, with all those
> super detailed little moving photographic moments - that was 320x240.
> 
> If you're Robert Croma, and you're doing something insanely visually
> beautiful at a large scale, great.
> 
> But it's about the skill and artistry, not the resolution.  Liss
> produces more beauty than most of us can handle, at 640x360.  Speakman
> at 320x240.
> 
> If you only want a cheap pocket camera for videoblogging, why is
> resolution your priority?
> 
> Why not get a camera that shoots much better images and colours at
> lower res video?
> 
> And is great in Low Light - surely one of the most important things of
> all for videoblogging?
> 
> I've always been impressed by the visuals and low light capabilities
> of the good Canon point and shoots.  Although they are getting sucked
> into HD now.
> 
> Nokia's blogger marketing people sent me a Nokia N86, which their ex-
> Kodak imaging chief has put a lot of effort into - a beautiful Zeiss
> lens and great processor.  Shoots lovely video at 640x480, and great
> photographs at 8MP.  Or even 5MP.  That's a *phone* that shoots better
> quality video than your Kodak or your Flip.
> 
> If you're not convinced by any of that, but you believe in energy
> conservation and limiting your emissions, then consider this: a report
> by McKinsey published before the explosion in HD video predicted that
> data centers would outstrip airlines in carbon emissions by 2020.
> Think about the energy costs of uploading *and* transcoding *and*
> storing *and* delivering all the multiple formats of your video
> (YouTube converts to and stores 3 copies: flv, mp4, HD) hundreds or
> thousands of times.  And the power required by your computer to edit
> and playback HD.  All to see your face in 1920x1080.
> 
> RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
> 
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv
> 
> On 23-Oct-09, at 1:10 PM, compumavengal wrote:
> 
>> > I'd like to bring something up that is often forgotten about under
>> > $200 camcorders. These camcorders were originally designed for point
>> > and shoot users.
>> >
>> > Having said that the features of the Zi8 are stunning:
>> >
>> > # 1080p (1920 × 1080, 30 fps)
>> > # 720p/60 fps (1280 × 720, 60 fps)
>> > # 720p (1280 × 720, 30 fps)
>> > USB 2.0 (high speed), AV out, HDMI, DC in, external microphone jack
>> > (support stereo)
>> >
>> > in an under $200 camcorder. I don't expect it to do low light
>> > shooting. I don't have expectation of white balancing. There is no
>> > optical zoom. I won't ever use the digital zoom.
>> >
>> > I've owned a Xacti camcorder, never a problem with it. I have a Zi6
>> > and I love it. But I understand the constrictions these camcorders
>> > by imposes on me.
>> >
>> > If I shoot hand held I'm gonna get jerky video unless I'm really
>> > careful. I have to be next to the person I'm talking to or no more
>> > than 4 feet away.
>> >
>> > I have to be creative in finding ways to stabilize the camcorder as
>> > I walk; like having the camcorder on a very small tripod braced in a
>> > handbag pocket. This may or may not work for you.
>> >
>> > If I am recording an event or lecture I'm taking my 30x optical zoom
>> > JVC Hard Drive Camcorder and a tripod.
>> >
>> > My point is that comparing $1,200 features to a $200 camcorder is
>> > inherently frustrating.
>> >
>> > If you need more stuff then you'll have to willing to jump to the
>> > next price class.
>> >
>> > Gena
>> > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
>> > http://createvideonotebook.blogspot.com
>> >
>> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> , David Jones <david.jo...@...>
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > My quest for a cheap new videoblogging camera continues...
>>> > > I came across the Kodak Zi8 HD pocket camcorder:
>>> > > 
>>> http://store.kodak.com/store/ekconsus/en_US/pd/Zi8_Pocket_Video_Camera/produ
>>> ctID.156585800
>>> > > Test footage looks really good:
>>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-raL4iQoY
>>> > > and the main benefit is that it has an external mic jack.
>>> > > It even has a remote which is essential for solo video blogging.
>>> > > Only downside seems to be lack of swivel head, so I won't be able to
>>> > > see myself in the video. That would be annoying, but not a
>>> > > showstopper. At least it would stop me looking off-lens all the
>>> > > time...
>>> > >
>>> > > The real test will always under my own conditions of course, I shoot
>>> > > in mostly the same location indoors in a fluoro lit workshop.
>>> > >
>>> > > I was considering the Canon FS200 SD card camcorder (looking for
>>> > > second hand because new is out of my price range), but the sensor is
>>> > > only 1/6" so most likely has fairly horrible low light performance,
>>> > > and the reviews mention this as well.
>>> > >
>>> > > I don't need the full HD, but 720 HD would be nice.
>>> > >
>>> > > Any comments on the Zi8 for video blogging?
>>> > > Anyone know of any other pocket video cams with an external mic jack
>>> > > like the Zi8?
>>> > >
>>> > > My current cam is an old Canon Optura60 DV (NTSC), not exactly a
>>> > > stand-out performer, so I figure a good pocket cam today will likely
>>> > > beat it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks
>>> > > Dave.
>>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
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