Now you're talking!  I'll just press the indent with an old CV!  Thanks for 
the idea!

NQ
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Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Swingaxle to IRS conversion


> Would be great to use an old cv or something similar to press a rounded 
> indent into the horns so as to get a nice round indent without any stress 
> points where cracks might start?
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> I'd bet Bill May has some sort of ideas on that??
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> Ray
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: No Quarter <[email protected]>
> To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 3:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Swingaxle to IRS conversion
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> Yeah Mike I've seen those weird double plates and I think my donor beetle
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> has them.  If the clearance isn't all that much, then I have no problem
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> having fun with a sledge hammer and putting a welded ring around the dent 
> to
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> prevent fatigue cracking and the like.  If it's not that much clearance 
> that
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> is needed, grinding and welding seems overkill.  I believe if I put the 
> pan
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> up on saw horses, I could slide my shop press over the horns and using a
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> piece of shaft as a mandrel, could probably just press the indentation in.
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> 20 tons oughta do it dontcha think?  :)
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> NQ
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> From: "Mike" <[email protected]>
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> To: "Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List" <[email protected]>
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> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Swingaxle to IRS conversion
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>>  Hot Vw's did an article on this recently.  The frame horns are a major
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>> structural member and can be kinda flexy, so I'd recommend beating the
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>> dents
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>> into the tops and seam-welding the sides for added strength.  If you do
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>> cut
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>> out and weld-in pieces, make them thick and seam-weld them good and
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>> strong,
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>> so as not to weaken the assembly.
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>>  The torsions could be the same, depending on which style late plates 
>> that
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>> you're using.  There are late double-plates that use different torsions
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>> endcaps.
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>> Mike B.
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>> -----Original Message----- 
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>> From: No Quarter
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>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:28 PM
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>> To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List
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>> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Swingaxle to IRS conversion
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>> Doesn't sound like that would be too hard.  I could use a grinder,
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>> clearance
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>> the horns, and weld in a piece of metal that was kind of radiused and
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>> indented.  I'd be doing this conversion on a pan without the body so it
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>> wouldn't be a big deal.  It would be nice to be able to title the car 
>> with
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>> the original stock pan.  Then I assume I just need the spring plates,
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>> trailing arms, etc. Are the splined torsion springs the same on swing 
>> axle
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>> as they are on IRS?
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>> NQ
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