Ray,
I cant agree with you more. Yes this pleasant relationship does cross
miles, boundaries and years.
Just communicating with you guys has got me 'into the mood'!! I was up
all night (part of my weird schedule as I do night and evening shifts at work
nowadays) but as soon as dawn (my bedtime!) approached, I rushed out and
crawled under the bug.
Popped both valve covers off and had a good look. Everything seems to be
in place. The pesky stud near cylinder number 3 is still loose like it was but
not wedged against anything or dropped into the valve cover.
I tried to move the crank pulley by hand but it wont budge. Not even a
slightest, tiniest bit, like before.
I replaced the valve covers and called it off. Carried the tools and parts
left outdoors in the garage. Noticed something. The starter motor pinion is
quite loose. If one shakes it about, the pinion moves forward. One can pull it
out by hand a good bit. The spring is visible on the shaft. I compared this
phenomenon with the two other manual motors I had. Their pinions are nice and
tight. Now on the suspect motor, nothing seems broken or missing, though I cant
say with certainty. Maybe I should dismantle it and compare with the 'exploded'
view diagram in the Bentley manual??
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if there was any problem in
the valve train or other outer/peripheral parts of the motor, the crank pulley
should move at least a fraction of a degree?? I think the combined components
do have the tiniest bit of play??
I am quite certain that the problem lies with *something* wedged into the
flywheel teeth. What? Only an engine pull can tell. Maybe the tired old starter
motor did drop something down there. A revenge of sorts for not fixing her on
time!!
Shall keep you posted,
Best regards,
Asad
Karachi, Pakistan.
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 21:06:24 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>
>
> NQ and All,
>
> Now this is how I recall finding the VintagVW list 10+ years ago, a group of
> friendly and helpful people always looking to find a way to make other's
> lives a little easier. A friendship that transcends lots of years and miles.
> Bill May made me a believer!
>
> Asad- Please let us know how that meeting goes tomorrow
>
> Ray
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asad ishaque <[email protected]>
> To: vw mailing list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 8:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome back!!
>
>
>
> I am most grateful and amazed that I/we (my brother and I) were actually
>
> being missed by many. This feels like returning home after a long time to
>
> family, our VW aircooled family!
>
>
>
> My Hotmail account is no longer my primary email but I do read the posts
>
> every once in a while and do wish I chime into the discussions more often.
> Can
>
> share a lot of the local VW happenings here which would be of interest to all.
>
>
>
> I read all comments and pondered over. Seems like the two top
> possibilities
>
> are something wedged between the flywheel and Bell housing (maybe like you
> say a
>
> TO bearing clip which came loose when I pushed the car while in gear to
>
> disengage the starter motor??). Or something to do with the Valve train
>
> assembly. Have still not had time to dig deeper into this mystery as my work
>
> hours are odd nowadays. I plan to crawl under the car and take a good look
> with
>
> the valve covers off. I did try to turn the crank pulley good though not
> really
>
> in the opposite direction but it did not budge even a fraction of a
> millimeter.
>
>
>
> I dont know why but have been having this 'gut feeling' it would turn out
> to
>
> be something stupidly simple rather than something as horrid as a broken
>
> crankshaft. Lets see, shall share definitely.
>
>
>
> I have invited an old timer Vdub mechanic over to my place tomorrow and
> would
>
> see what he has to say. Id like to inspect the valve assys before he comes to
>
> narrow things down.
>
>
>
> Now I'm sitting planning a bit ahead. I did have quite a few things lined
> up
>
> so if I do need to pull the motor, Id have plenty to do. Im thinking maybe
> this
>
> is an opportunity thrust upon me, very politely, by the VW gods! The car
> lives
>
> up to its nickname of 'Trusty', not breaking down on the road to leave me
>
> stranded! Below is a list of 'things to do' if I pull the motor:
>
>
>
> 1. Replace leaky main oil seal (have a German replacement in my stash, just
>
> arrived from Canada)
>
> 2. Fix some mysterious exhaust leaks. Seem to be from one of the joints as
> all
>
> components are solid. Bug has stopped fweeming lately.
>
> 3. Toss out the J tubes we had used as no decent heat exchange boxes were
>
> available. Now I have a pair of good heater boxes in the attic.
>
> 4. Inspect the clutch. Have brand new Brazilian clutch and pressure plate in
> my
>
> stash (a lucky local bone yard find from an unfinished project which ended up
>
> with the scrappers. Half price!).
>
> 5. Maybe, just maybe pull the heads off to fix some oil leaks and fix a
> single
>
> stud which was bad after the overhaul several years ago. This was perhaps the
>
> only corner we cut, after great contemplation back then.
>
> 6. New piston rings etc if no 5 happens.
>
> 7. Have nice push rod tube seals too in from Canada which can go on if no 5
>
> happens.
>
> 8. Put in a new starter bushing. Btw, folks may find it interesting that some
>
> local Dub specialists can change this with the engine on the car. Its a neat
>
> trick I can describe.
>
> 9. Maybe I'm forgetting something?? But I know if I put my hands into this,
> one
>
> things going to lead to a lot of things!!
>
>
>
> This is not all. I have a 'spare' 1967 vintage engine and gearbox in my
>
> stash too. Engine can be bolted right on till the current unit gets the
> needed
>
> TLC so car is not off the road for long.
>
>
>
> Also, have some issues to sort on the gearbox itself. The nose cone has
>
> miles of play in the hockey stick. The brass bushing even comes loose and
>
> wiggles around. Sloppy shifter to which I'm used to, unfortunately. Sometimes
>
> the reverse gear slips to neutral. Any thougths whether this is due to a bad
>
> reverse or may be a consequence of the hockey stick play?? How can I be sure,
>
> without tearing the whole box open, something which gives me nightmares as
> not
>
> familiar with the intricacies.
>
>
>
> Some questions: Can I swap the nose cone off the gear box with the unit
> on
>
> the car?? I have a small collection of nose cones now. How hard is it to take
>
> the gearbox off?? Its a swing axle 68 bug. Would the rear wheel alignment get
>
> disturbed if the gearbox is taken off or played around with?? I also must
> change
>
> all the three mounts while I'm at this.
>
>
>
> All thoughts shall be highly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Best wishes and warm regards to all,
>
>
>
> Asad
>
>
>
> Karachi, Pakistan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > To: [email protected]
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 04:08:27 -0700
>
> > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>
> >
>
> > my friends 63 panel bus had "locked up" right after he turned off his
>
> > engine. upon pulling engine we found a throwout bearing clip wedging the
>
> > flywheel. reinstalled the throwout bearing with new TO clips and driving it
>
> > everyday 20 miles each way.
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of No Quarter
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:30 PM
>
> > To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List
>
> > Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>
> >
>
> > Hello Asad! Haven't heard from you in a very long time so I'm glad to see
>
> > you're still with us!
>
> >
>
> > It is entirely possible that something has fallen into the flywheel gear
>
> > teeth and wedged itself between the teeth and the bell-housing.
>
> >
>
> > I would just pull the engine and while it's out, fix that starter bushing in
>
> >
>
> > the transmission.
>
> >
>
> > Then to remedy your hard start issues with the increased resistance in the
>
> > wiring causing the solenoid to not want to activate, go here and read up on
>
> > this rather cheap fix:
>
> > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=421220
>
> >
>
> > Keep us posted!
>
> >
>
> > NQ
>
> >
>
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