On the NFB web site, I grabbed the below numbers of visually impaired adults in the United States. I know that not everyone, and likely not even a majority are using iPhones:
The number of non-institutionalized, male or female, ages 16 through 75+, all races, regardless of ethnicity, with all education levels in the United States reported to have a visual disability in 2013. Total (all ages): 7,327,800 The number of non-institutionalized, male or female, ages 16 through 75+, all races, regardless of ethnicity, with all education levels in the United States reported to have a visual disability in 2013. Total (all ages): 7,327,800 The number of non-institutionalized, male or female, ages 16 through 75+, all races, regardless of ethnicity, with all education levels in the United States reported to have a visual disability in 2013. Total (all ages): 7,327,800 (Sent from my iPhone 5S) > On Feb 21, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Kevin Chao <[email protected]> wrote: > > Eyes-free@ has 3232 members: > https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!aboutgroup/eyes-free > ViPhone@ has 2343 members: > https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!aboutgroup/viphone >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 2:24 PM Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> I am using something called extrapolation based on a smaller sample (in this >> case, several blindness related groups on Facebook, a dozen or so mac and >> apple related blindness mailing lists and other data (including its >> prominence of use at the colorado center for the blind). what I have found >> is that there are far more blind iPhone users than there are blind android >> users (part of the issue is the cost of add on accessibility on some >> versions of android phones). I could probably set up a survey monkey page, >> spread around the link and ask a few questions in the survey. That would >> give me a better (and more credible) sampling. Right now, my numbers are >> only preliminary and a liberal estimate at that. >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >> > How does 40M iPhone sales in US last year convert to 6M blind iPhone users >> > (US or global?)? >> > Logic is fuzzy... >> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 11:09 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> > What is this app people are talking about? I can't seem to find the >> > original thread about this >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Ari >> > >> > > On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > well, if they don't care about this issue, lets make them care about >> > > something (like their revenue stream). attack that, and they most >> > > definitely will care. >> > > >> > > -eric >> > > >> > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 4:36 AM, Rajmund wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Hello, >> > >> I take as they never have, and are not about to, care, either. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Sent from an iPad >> > >> >> > >>> On 20 Feb 2016, at 8:12 pm, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> I wouldn't exactly call their statement "honest". THe first part of >> > >>> their statement is actually a bold faced lie. The tools are very >> > >>> available to make their app accessible. the second half is more a >> > >>> statement of intent than anything else. Its more likely that they >> > >>> never considered use by the blind and are now being forced to admit to >> > >>> it (in a roundabout fashion). btw, I haven't sent that letter yet. I >> > >>> was hoping to see more responses on this before I did so. >> > >>> >> > >>> -eric >> > >>> >> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:40 AM, rajmund wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Hi, >> > >>>> LOL, least they were honest, and didn't just say, "Will do it in the >> > >>>> next update." >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Sent from a BrailleNote >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >>>> From: Eric Oyen <[email protected] >> > >>>> To: [email protected] >> > >>>> Date sent: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:54:38 -0700 >> > >>>> Subject: Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding >> > >>>> VoiceOverAccessibility >> > >>>> >> > >>>> here is a copy of a letter that I propose sending to this company. >> > >>>> Might I also suggest hitting up their ratings area on the app store >> > >>>> and posting a 0 star rating with a list of complaints. the more that >> > >>>> show up there, the greater their incentive to change their attitude >> > >>>> (and development cycle). Also, for anyone using the Android version >> > >>>> of this app, doing the same on the android store should also have a >> > >>>> similar impact. SOmeone could also start a change.org petition. The >> > >>>> more attention that is brought to bear on this, the more likely it is >> > >>>> that they will be forced to deal with this.. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> here is the letter: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> *** >> > >>>> Gentlemen, >> > >>>> I recently read a response you sent another user about accessibility >> > >>>> (or the lack of it) in your application platform. I would also like >> > >>>> to be able to use your platform, but find that none of the controls >> > >>>> or options are accessible. Considering that apple published (free of >> > >>>> charge mind you) their API on how to interface with their screen >> > >>>> reader, there is no excuse for your lack of accessibility. In fact, >> > >>>> your statement: " >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments >> > >>>> to use screen reading technology or have a way to make our site >> > >>>> accessible at this time. We also haven't been informed of any plans >> > >>>> to add that functionality any time soon." >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I must point out that your statement above is a slap in the face of >> > >>>> any blind user who may have to depend on your application to read >> > >>>> specific publications. Also, as you do business in the US and >> > >>>> contract with public institutions (schools, colleges, etc.), you are >> > >>>> required to abide by the terms of the US AMericans with Disabilities >> > >>>> act (as amended 1996). I am only pointing this out to you to bring >> > >>>> to your attention that someone else might decide your wallet would >> > >>>> make a tempting target. This is not a threat, this is advice you >> > >>>> really should heed. Now, the way I see it, you don't have any >> > >>>> choice. THere is already a push on to get other blind users to write >> > >>>> in and hit you u up on this issue. Considering the number of >> > >>>> blindness related blogs, email lists and social pages (on Facebook >> > >>>> and other social media), this means you might be forced to deal with >> > >>>> this sooner (rather than later). >> > >>>> >> > >>>> FYI, data regarding accessibility on iOS is available here: >> > >>>> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperie >> > >>>> nce/Conceptual/iPhoneAccessibility/Making_Application_Accessible/ >> > >>>> Making_Application_Accessible.html >> > >>>> >> > >>>> please do not do me the disservice of sending a response like the one >> > >>>> quoted above. Might I suggest that you change your plans now, while >> > >>>> you still can. Considering the number of blind iPhone users (at last >> > >>>> count, somewhere north of 6 million or so), I would hate for you to >> > >>>> have to drop everything to start dealing with 6 million angry blind >> > >>>> people. so, your direction is now clear. take the steps (now) to >> > >>>> make your product accessible. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> thank you, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Eric Oyen >> > >>>> *** >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Dear All: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Issuu is an app which provides access to millions of magazines, >> > >>>> newsletters, etc., on virtually any topic you can think of. My son, >> > >>>> who is also a VoiceOver user, wanted to access his high school's >> > >>>> newspaper which is on the platform. However, it is in an image pdf. >> > >>>> Furthermore, trying to get around the app is nightmarish, and it does >> > >>>> not appear that any of the available resources is accessible. >> > >>>> I wrote to their support center, and this is the response I received. >> > >>>> My response to that unhelpful response is first, with the response >> > >>>> in the middle, with my original message at the bottom. I think this >> > >>>> is absolutely something which should be available to those who use >> > >>>> screen readers. If others agree, I think we should bombard them with >> > >>>> requests to make their platform accessible. >> > >>>> Christine >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Begin forwarded message: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> From: "Christine Grassman (issuu Support Team)" <[email protected] >> > >>>> Subject: Update from issuu Support Re: Poor VoiceOver accessibility >> > >>>> Date: February 19, 2016 at 10:16:27 AM EST >> > >>>> To: Christine Grassman <[email protected] >> > >>>> Reply-To: issuu Support Team <[email protected] >> > >>>> >> > >>>> ## Please do not write below this line ## >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Christine Grassman >> > >>>> Feb 19, 16:16 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> With all due respect, there is no excuse for this. Apple makes >> > >>>> available to developers, free of charge, guidelines for making apps >> > >>>> accessible. There's absolutely no reason not to do this. >> > >>>> Christine >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Angel (Help Center) >> > >>>> Feb 19, 11:51 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Hi Christine, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments >> > >>>> to use screen reading technology or have a way to make our site >> > >>>> accessible at this time. We also haven't been informed of any plans >> > >>>> to add that functionality any time soon. I'm so very sorry about >> > >>>> that. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> If we do introduce this functionality at any point, we will put up an >> > >>>> announcement on our blog (blog.issuu.com) and on our help center >> > >>>> (help.issuu.com), so please do keep checking these places for updates. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Please don't hesitate to write back if you have any other questions, >> > >>>> and we'd be happy to assist you. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Best regards, >> > >>>> Angel >> > >>>> >> > >>>> issuu is on iOS and Android. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> To learn more about issuu, please visit our Help Center. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Christine Grassman >> > >>>> Feb 15, 22:42 >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I am blind, as are my children. We use iPhones with VoiceOver >> > >>>> accessibility to access text. I am deeply disappointed that Issuu is >> > >>>> not voiceover accessible. Only some features are accessible, and one >> > >>>> cannot find and read magazines. In this day and age, this is >> > >>>> unacceptable. Information should be accessible to us just as to >> > >>>> others. >> > >>>> There is no reason why the text of your millions of publications >> > >>>> should not be accessible using a screen reader. I hope that you will >> > >>>> address this as quickly as possible. >> > >>>> Christine Grassman >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> This email is a service from Help Center. 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