I agree it takes some practice and getting used to, but I never found that 
pressure made any difference, unless of course too much pressure kept the 
gesture from being smooth or too little pressure meant it didn't register.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions

It does take a bit of practice.  Your touch can't be completely light with no 
pressure at all, but just a very small amount of pressure.  To much pressure 
deffinately does not work.  I never did figure out how to do the scrub gesture.

On 11/7/22, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Amen to that, Joshua, don't press, just flick.
>
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions
>
> I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the 13 pro max and I don't 
> miss the home button one bit.  I have very little trouble going from 
> home to app switcher.  One thing that helped me get a hang of the home 
> button gesture, is don't press your finger so hard on the screen when doing 
> the gesture.
> Give the screen a very light touch with just a little bit of pressure.
> If you press very hard on the screen all you'll do is be sliding your 
> finger around on the screen.  I mostly use a braille bluetooth 
> keyboard called the Hable One so I don't have any trouble backing out 
> of menus.  However, even if I'm not using my keyboard, I can back out 
> of menus just fine with no issues.
>
> On 11/7/22, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Katriona,
>>
>>     A couple  of weeks ago, I made the same  upgrade as you and can 
>> identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as 
>> the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the 
>> control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a 
>> scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to 
>> move you out of the control centre.
>>
>>     I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen 
>> and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri 
>> can help.
>> Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I 
>> just reopen it using Siri.
>>
>>     HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that 
>> they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures 
>> intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home 
>> and App Switcher.
>>
>>     Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially, 
>> the camera functionality, than the 8.
>>
>>     Sandy and Z.
>>
>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1.
>>> Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly 
>>> isn’t easy yet.  Although I will probably have additional questions 
>>> in the future, for now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts 
>>> about the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app.  After entering the 
>>> E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha, 
>>> including a visual and audio challenge.  I click on the audio option 
>>> and then play; hear the challenge, but then I can’t move forward.  
>>> There is a field to enter what I heard; I double tap, as VO says to 
>>> do, and nothing; no keyboard is displayed and there’s no dictate 
>>> button.  You can click on a new challenge, visual challenge and 
>>> verify (the latter results in VO saying “in progress” of course an 
>>> answer was entered so I didn’t expect anything to happen).  
>>> Hopefully there is an easy solution to this.
>>> Voiceover (VO) is still not getting notifications on the lock screen.
>>> I had hoped this would be resolved by getting a newer phone.  FYI, I 
>>> have the setting for Siri to announce notifications turned off, as 
>>> it seems redundant to have VO and Siri do the same thing, and 
>>> because I thought it might cause a conflict.  Thoughts?
>>> Because of the design of the 14 Pro, I’m finding it less efficient 
>>> to back out of menus, etc.  On prior phones, I could quickly touch 
>>> the top/left of the display to find the back button.  Now, if I go 
>>> to high, I activate the Control Center; if I could only activate the 
>>> Home Screen and App Switcher as easily (i.e. I can activate them 
>>> eventually but usually after numerous attempts to slide my finger 
>>> from the bottom up). 😀 Now that I’m in the Control Center, I have 
>>> to go through the attempts to return to the Home Screen, and then 
>>> attempt to find the back button by swiping a lot.  Is there an 
>>> easier way to navigate menus, or tricks to make the process more efficient?
>>> Is it possible to change a setting so  that the Control Center 
>>> doesn’t open when touching the top of the display?
>>> Again, getting out of areas like the Control Center, App Switcher 
>>> and submenus on the Home Screen can be done, but it is certainly a 
>>> challenge.
>>> I put my finger at the bottom, above the lightening port, and slide 
>>> up to the first vibration and let go.  The thing is it takes me 
>>> multiple attempts to feel the vibration, so I assume I didn’t start 
>>> in the proper place, low enough, etc.  Hopefully this will 
>>> eventually get easier, but in the meantime suggestions are welcome.  
>>> Is there an alternative to what I’m doing to exit these areas (e.g. 
>>> can Siri help, could the side button help, etc.)?  I recall someone 
>>> reporting on this list, that she heard VO  announce something to 
>>> identify the Home Screen and App Switcher, and then she lifts her 
>>> finger.  Should VO be announcing that for me?  I just get the 
>>> vibration.  Should I wait longer to let go in order to hear VO?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to receiving any support you can provide,
>>>
>>> Katrina
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