Christopher, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  I've got kind of
a heavy hand when it comes to pressing on things.  Maybe it comes from
my guitar playing.

On 11/7/22, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:
> I agree it takes some practice and getting used to, but I never found that
> pressure made any difference, unless of course too much pressure kept the
> gesture from being smooth or too little pressure meant it didn't register.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions
>
> It does take a bit of practice.  Your touch can't be completely light with
> no pressure at all, but just a very small amount of pressure.  To much
> pressure deffinately does not work.  I never did figure out how to do the
> scrub gesture.
>
> On 11/7/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Amen to that, Joshua, don't press, just flick.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 4:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Upgraded to iPhone 14 Pro and have questions
>>
>> I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to the 13 pro max and I don't
>> miss the home button one bit.  I have very little trouble going from
>> home to app switcher.  One thing that helped me get a hang of the home
>> button gesture, is don't press your finger so hard on the screen when
>> doing the gesture.
>> Give the screen a very light touch with just a little bit of pressure.
>> If you press very hard on the screen all you'll do is be sliding your
>> finger around on the screen.  I mostly use a braille bluetooth
>> keyboard called the Hable One so I don't have any trouble backing out
>> of menus.  However, even if I'm not using my keyboard, I can back out
>> of menus just fine with no issues.
>>
>> On 11/7/22, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Katriona,
>>>
>>>     A couple  of weeks ago, I made the same  upgrade as you and can
>>> identify with your frustrations. First thing I did was set "home" as
>>> the macro for a double tap on the back of the phone. When I am in the
>>> control centre, especially by mistake, I find that I can get out by a
>>> scrub gesture. Mind you, you have to wait a second or two for it to
>>> move you out of the control centre.
>>>
>>>     I too, have to make several attempts to use the bottom of screen
>>> and slide up, for the home button, So, rarely use it. Remember Siri
>>> can help.
>>> Instead of using the app switcher to go to another running app, I
>>> just reopen it using Siri.
>>>
>>>     HTH a bit, and I am relying upon the fact that many here say that
>>> they don't miss the home button. I have always found the VO gestures
>>> intuitive and am disappointed with the one we have to use for Home
>>> and App Switcher.
>>>
>>>     Mind you, I do think this is a much superior phone, especially,
>>> the camera functionality, than the 8.
>>>
>>>     Sandy and Z.
>>>
>>> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>>>
>>>> On 7 Nov 2022, at 20:14, Katrina Anderson
>>>> <kanderson8...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I replaced my iPhone 8 yesterday with a 14 Pro 256 and IOS 16 iPhone.1.
>>>> Although I am managing to deal with no home button, it certainly
>>>> isn’t easy yet.  Although I will probably have additional questions
>>>> in the future, for now, I would appreciate any answers or thoughts
>>>> about the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’m not able to sign in to the Instacart app.  After entering the
>>>> E-mail address and password, there appears to be a captcha,
>>>> including a visual and audio challenge.  I click on the audio option
>>>> and then play; hear the challenge, but then I can’t move forward.
>>>> There is a field to enter what I heard; I double tap, as VO says to
>>>> do, and nothing; no keyboard is displayed and there’s no dictate
>>>> button.  You can click on a new challenge, visual challenge and
>>>> verify (the latter results in VO saying “in progress” of course an
>>>> answer was entered so I didn’t expect anything to happen).
>>>> Hopefully there is an easy solution to this.
>>>> Voiceover (VO) is still not getting notifications on the lock screen.
>>>> I had hoped this would be resolved by getting a newer phone.  FYI, I
>>>> have the setting for Siri to announce notifications turned off, as
>>>> it seems redundant to have VO and Siri do the same thing, and
>>>> because I thought it might cause a conflict.  Thoughts?
>>>> Because of the design of the 14 Pro, I’m finding it less efficient
>>>> to back out of menus, etc.  On prior phones, I could quickly touch
>>>> the top/left of the display to find the back button.  Now, if I go
>>>> to high, I activate the Control Center; if I could only activate the
>>>> Home Screen and App Switcher as easily (i.e. I can activate them
>>>> eventually but usually after numerous attempts to slide my finger
>>>> from the bottom up). 😀 Now that I’m in the Control Center, I have
>>>> to go through the attempts to return to the Home Screen, and then
>>>> attempt to find the back button by swiping a lot.  Is there an
>>>> easier way to navigate menus, or tricks to make the process more
>>>> efficient?
>>>> Is it possible to change a setting so  that the Control Center
>>>> doesn’t open when touching the top of the display?
>>>> Again, getting out of areas like the Control Center, App Switcher
>>>> and submenus on the Home Screen can be done, but it is certainly a
>>>> challenge.
>>>> I put my finger at the bottom, above the lightening port, and slide
>>>> up to the first vibration and let go.  The thing is it takes me
>>>> multiple attempts to feel the vibration, so I assume I didn’t start
>>>> in the proper place, low enough, etc.  Hopefully this will
>>>> eventually get easier, but in the meantime suggestions are welcome.
>>>> Is there an alternative to what I’m doing to exit these areas (e.g.
>>>> can Siri help, could the side button help, etc.)?  I recall someone
>>>> reporting on this list, that she heard VO  announce something to
>>>> identify the Home Screen and App Switcher, and then she lifts her
>>>> finger.  Should VO be announcing that for me?  I just get the
>>>> vibration.  Should I wait longer to let go in order to hear VO?
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to receiving any support you can provide,
>>>>
>>>> Katrina
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