O.K Rossi says he will star to deliver domestic E-cats in September or after it. The 1,000,000 Ecats will be very cheap because robots will make them. The factory is in Florida - perhaps somebody has seen it? Or is it hidden? If it is/will be the result of something called *investment *then the things seem to be a bit more complicated. The worldwide consume of such generators - as heaters and for retrofitting all the cars and trucks is around 1000,000,000 pieces; it will be rather difficult to practice dumping and competicide with this unique factory. Except if competition is formed by retarded individuals, unable to solve the problems. Once upon a time there was an invincible E-cat...
Peter On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>wrote: > Wolf, > > Heard you got a question into the program. Well down. > > I think Rossi is dead right on the pricing structure. This way he will > make it very difficult for another FPE device to get into HIS market. If he > sells at a higher price then there is enough fat to allow another > competitor to recover their costs. Rossi has the high ground and will > ensure no one will overtake his position. > > By the time others get their hands on his product and reverse engineering > them, he will have recovered ALL his costs and can drop his price even > further, while still making a very nice profit. If I was a Rossi > shareholder I would be very pleased with his approach. He plays to be the > last and only man standing. > > On the "Energy Stick" I see this as a dual screw in action, which > initially seals the stick and then opens it to the internal H2 supply that > is probably in hydride storage. It would be VERY low cost to manufacture. I > really doubt there is a profit in recycling them other than in the > publicity that they are recycled. > > As for the RFG, yes apparently it is used to control the reaction once the > external heater is switched off. As Rossi says, it enables the Coulomb > force to work with the reaction as in Martial Arts where you use the > opponents strength against him. > > Here we see a differing between Rossi and DFG. DFG use multiple small > reactors (no RFG) that they apparently individually switch off and on to > control output, while Rossi uses his RFG to control the output from a > single reactor while it is running in self sustain mode. The RFG system > seemed to work well during the earlier E-Cat self sustain mode tests but > there was not a dynamically varying load being applied, so how capable it > is in handling time varying loads is still to be seen. > > A simple way to do domestic hot water is to put a heat exchanger into the > home hot water storage tank and then have a control system to regulate the > amount of hot heat exchanger fluid that flows into the hot water storage > tank's heat exchanger. > > Give me a 10 kW home E-Cat and I'll have it producing hot air into the > home ducted system and hot "Sanitary water" as Rossi calls it in short > order. Not many Aussie homes with hot water radiators, so we don't need > that option here. Well maybe in Melbourne and Tasmania they will need it. > Ha Ha cold southerners. > > AG > > > > On 1/15/2012 9:33 PM, Wolf Fischer wrote: > >> AG, >> >> Thanks for this much more detailed summary! I was being too tired when I >> wrote mine... Should have waited over night. >> >> Some thoughts of mine on the interview and Rossis statements: >> >> The thing which interests me (also in the context of the probable >> "quiescence" problem as mentioned by Jones Beene) is the reactor control >> via regulation of operational heat point. How could he do this? He needs a >> way of a) increasing as well as b) decreasing the reactor temperature. >> Increasing is simple: Power the heat resistance module. >> But as soon as the reaction starts, how can he cool it down? From what I >> know about the reactor, there is the possibility of regulating the amount >> and pressure of H. However (as this seems to be a cartridge) there must be >> some way of releasing and again storing the H. What kind of cheap, reliable >> and fast mechanic would allow to add H to the reactor and, if the heat is >> too high, release some of the H (which, I think, must be again stored >> somewhere)? Or could he just deliver the cartridge with so much H that it >> will be enough in any case for a 6 month operation? >> Or perhaps is this the mysterious RF generator which helps regulating the >> reaction? As far as I remember Defkalion, they state that the Hyperions can >> not be regulated and they are also missing a RF generator. Rossi states in >> the interview (when asked about the RF generator) that the "forces that >> basically should fight against us, and I mean the coulomb force, are used >> to help us." He after that again states that what theoretically should be >> to their disadvantages they have turned to their advantages. I (as an >> amateur) could interpret this as in order to decrease high temperatures we >> 'increase' the coulomb force (and therefore lowering the reaction) using >> the RF generator... ? But this is wild speculation from my side... >> >> Another point that I am currently thinking about is Rossis older >> statement regarding the fact that first generation Ecats should be >> upgradeable in order to produce electric heat. From the picture that I >> currently get, this is either >> a) an old statement and not valid anymore >> or >> b) upgrade the control software and buy a new cartridge which is capable >> of delivering enough heat >> >> The "Energy Sticks" or Cartridges are perhaps not sold (in the sense that >> the buyer owns the thing) but leased to the customer (because of the low >> price and the recycling back at the factory). >> >> Further, if I was an investor in Rossi, I would scream out loud because >> of the low prices which he is promoting... 500$, if he is first on the >> market with this revolutionary technology? I mean sure, this could be a >> simple device and easy to produce (and Rossi says, "the technology must be >> for all"), but then at least charge some more for an "Energy Stick" than >> just 10 bucks... I don't know of any historical example where a new and >> revolutionary technology hasn't been introduced without a proper price tag. >> He can start with a higher price and if there comes a similar product from >> a competitor, he can still lower the Ecat price... >> >> We will see, time will tell... If he really wants to mass-produce the >> Ecats he should really have solved all important problems else he will need >> lots and lots of lawyers... ;) >> >> Wolf >> >> P.S.: Another point from the interview: >> "This effect has now been understood very well and theory will be >> presented soon", when talking about the H-Ni reaction >> >> >> What I learned from the interview. >>> >>> 10 kW home E-Cat is the size of a portable computer. >>> >>> Rossi calls the recharges "Energy Sticks", fits with the ball point pen >>> refill statement. >>> >>> Replacement is simple and can be done by anyone. >>> >>> No H2 canisters used. Reactor stores and recycles the H2. Only uses >>> picograms of H2. >>> >>> Reactor control is via regulation of operational heat point. >>> >>> Fuel lasts 4,320 operational hours (180 days at 24 hours a day). >>> >>> E-Cat will signal when refill is needed. >>> >>> Customer can purchase several refills and keep them in stock. >>> >>> Cost of the refill to the customer will be $10 plus installation if >>> needed. >>> >>> Will be available via internet sales. >>> >>> Home units will run in self sustain mode. >>> >>> 512 keV 180 deg Gammas have been detected. >>> >>> 1st 1 MW plant is in modification. Should be operation in 1 - 2 months. >>> >>> 12 additional 1 MW plants are being built. >>> >>> 1 additional 1 MW plant has been sold to another customer. >>> >>> UL certification of the home E-Cat is in process. >>> >>> 2.7 to 2.9 kWs needed for 1 hour to start the home 10 kW E-Cat. >>> >>> Home E-Cat has only 1 reactor. >>> >>> Rossi claims the RFG helps the Coulomb barrier work with the reaction >>> and not against it. >>> >>> First E-Cat factory is in Florida. Rossi is going to Massachusetts to >>> further discuss building another E-Cat plant there. >>> >>> Home E-Cat production will start in the US fall. Sales will start in the >>> US winter. >>> >>> Rossi is not interested in family investors as the business is still >>> risky. >>> >>> Large hedge funds are welcome but only with a small % investment. >>> >>> Does plan to go public. >>> >>> Home E-Cat has a 30 year expected life. >>> >>> Customer price between $400 to $500 for a home E-Cat 10 kW thermal unit. >>> >>> AG >>> >>> >>> On 1/15/2012 10:29 AM, Wolf Fischer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> Rossi was just on the Smart Scarecrow Show. There were some new >>>> information / clarification (although I can't remember them all; the >>>> information below should be correct however I sometimes had problems >>>> understanding Rossi because of a pretty low audio quality and me not being >>>> a native English speaker): >>>> >>>> 1. He sold another 1MW reactor (in addition to the 13 which have >>>> already been sold), but many potential customers are in line... >>>> 2. Production should start in autumn, distribution in winter (if >>>> everything works out as planned) >>>> 3. He wants to sell one million Ecats next year (this is what they are >>>> aiming for in a complete year regarding production) >>>> 4. Price of the Home Ecat is down to 500$ >>>> 5. Ecat is thought for heating the home, not for heating the water for >>>> showering etc. >>>> 6. Refueling the Ecat is done by replacing a cartridge. This cartridge >>>> will cost around 10$ and will then be sent back to a factory where it will >>>> be recycled. >>>> 7. The testing of the Ecat through the University of Bologna is >>>> currently not at the top of his priority list (there is currently the >>>> engineering of the production facilities) but he said something about >>>> starting with this next month >>>> 8. I wanted to know something about the stability of the reactor (I was >>>> referring to the uptime of the reactor, however Sterling shortened the >>>> question). According to Rossi, especially the temperature output was >>>> stabilized with the help of NI (at least this is what I understood). >>>> 9. On patenting - his lawyers are working on that. >>>> 10. Regarding the radio frequency generator: He didn't want to reveal >>>> anything. He compared this to Martial Arts and said something about that it >>>> is important for overcoming the coulomb barrier. >>>> 11. If I understood him correctly (If!), while explaining the working >>>> mechanism of the reactor core, he said that in the reaction gamma rays will >>>> be emitted, then hit a lead shielding which then will heat up and therefore >>>> heat the water. >>>> 12. The first question regarding the first customer was (of course) not >>>> answered because of an NDA >>>> >>>> This is what I did just remember from 1:30h... There will surely be a >>>> transcript available soon. >>>> >>>> Wolf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
