AFAIK the IP issues were cleared with WIAB. 2011/8/19 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
> > Mercurial vs SVN > > Seems like SVN is viewed a legacy and a step back from Hg. > > I am not speaking for infrastructure of course, but I have heard this > dicussion for a while now. People always claim about SVN and want GIT. > Now you want Mercurial. All valid, but the usual answer from infra is: > not now. There are many problems with going to git, nobody has > mentioned hg yet. > At the moment there is git readonly support available: > http://git.apache.org/ > > > > Project Wiki / Site > > Currently using Google Sites which has a much richer CMS interface which > handles images, html tables, sub pages, attachments. The Apache CMS is > functional, but is not on par with google sites. It also seems like it is > not being maintained going forward due to lack of time. > > other projects use other options. Some use mvn site to create their > site. I think over at openoffice podling Drupal is now being used. You > are not limited to use this CMS, in fact only a few do. You should > just now that infra usually prefers static html in svn (or has done in > the past). The Drupal instance - to my knowledge - is not maintained > by asf infra, but they have helped to setup a vm for it. If this are > options, you can ask on the ooo dev list how they made it. > > besides that, sites generated with Apache Forrest or Piwi are also > possible. > > > Reviewboard vs Reitveld > > Many of the wave developers voiced an opinion that the strongly preferred > Reitveld over reviewboard. > > > > So basically, as Yuri pointed out there have been some technical issues > in doing the migration, but I think the larger issue is that we are simply > not that motivated to do the migration because the end state looks less > desirable than the state we are in now. So it's been hard to get people to > volunteer their time to move us over. I think some of these issues are > valid and we should discuss them. If we REALLY feel like these > infrastructure options are hampering the growth of the project then I think > we should start a discussion with the Infra group at apache to raise our > concerns. > > > You should. I have been following wave for quite a while now and it > has become quiet. How many people are still -active- on Apache Wave? > How many have become silent because they were unhappy with the > environment? > > As I mentioned in another post, it looks like IP has not been cleared > for Wave yet. Or is it? > > For those who do not know, I am ASF member myself and active on the > incubator project. If can help a little bit please let me know. > > Cheers > Christian > > > > > > If anyone would like to help in any regard, that would be great. > > > > ~Michael > > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 6:11 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > > > >> Michael should be following this mail list, so I guess he will respond > as > >> soon as he can. In any way his email is michael.macfad...@gmail.com. > >> Regarding the migration status: > >> Currently the issues migrated to Apache, however the source code is > still at > >> the old wave-protocol google-code based repository. > >> The code migration got a bit delayed for two reasons as I see it: > >> 1. The technical one. The technical aspect of converting Mercurial > >> repository into Subversion is kind of challenging. There are a plenty of > >> tools that allow to do the transition the other way (from SVN to > Mercurial). > >> I personally investigated this a bit and seems like it would require > first > >> to convert Hg to Git, the Git to SVN. > >> 2. The convenience. Well, converting from mercurial to SVN is kind of > >> downgrade, so there's little emotional motivation to do it. > >> 3. The inertial. Currently we have working process to submit patches > with > >> tested tools and code review integration. Migration to SVN and the > Review > >> Board will have it's learning curve and honestly, possibly won't be > better. > >> > >> Also, we will probably have to move most of the Wiki that currently > resides > >> also on google-code, but that's less urgent. > >> > >> 2011/8/19 Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> > >> > >>> Ok good to know. Is there a way we can reach out to him? > >>> > >>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> As far as I recall, I thought Michael MacFadden was taking the lead on > >>>> infra > >>>> related items. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> So the important questions are: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Who is the most knowledgeable with the current state of the > project. > >>>>> 2. Who are the primary leaders of the group. > >>>>> > >>>>> I wanna get the ball rolling on things again. We shouldn't just sit > on > >>>>> the sidelines waiting for google or whoever to finish things. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Andrew > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> There was great momentum when Google was actively pushing the > >>>> incubation > >>>>>> status and active on the project as a whole. Now that Google has > >>>> tapered > >>>>> off > >>>>>> (as I assumed they would), I'm not sure what the status of things > are > >>>> any > >>>>>> more. Nor who has taken the rains of leading the movement toward > >>> being > >>>>> fully > >>>>>> on Apache's infra. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > >>>>>> <zmy...@gmail.com>wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 What parts of the project are where right now? And how long > >>> will > >>>> it > >>>>> be > >>>>>>> until Apache has everything? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 17:47, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I've been kinda wondering the same thing. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Ragone <ajr9...@rit.edu> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It seems there is a huge lag in migration of the Project to the > >>>>>>>> incubator. > >>>>>>>>> What is the status on this (eg. who has ownership of what) and > >>> what > >>>>> can > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>> to help migrate?! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -Andrew > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> --Matt > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> --Matt > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> --Matt > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de >
