As said I think it is an obvious structural problem of the Wiki organization. I 
don't think the intention of this thread was to solve a single issue but to 
point out a general problem.

Regards,
Lars Gardenius



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 Von: Fred Bauder <[email protected]>
An: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> 
Gesendet: 15:09 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself
 

For a serious discussion to happen you will need to disclose some
examples. The next step is to move beyond anecdote to see if there is a
general problem.

The particular incident Rui brought up has been pretty much explained,
but the question remains about have a new or casual editor who commits a
faux pas can simply be reminded not to rather than being vilified and
being turned away completely. Everyone does dumb stuff, especially at
first. The question is whether they learn anything from it.

Fred

> Sorry, but I have seen several instances where it certainly doesn't work.
> Not in a way you would expect in a normal society anyhow.
>
> Regards,
> Lars Gardenius
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  Von: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> An: Lars Gardenius <[email protected]>; Wikimedia Mailing List
> <[email protected]>
> CC: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; Wikimedia Mailing
> List <[email protected]>
> Gesendet: 14:22 Donnerstag, 5.September 2013
> Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself
>
>
> I wouldn't say dispute resolution has never worked, nor does it not work
> now. It could use improvement, but the same could be said about
> everything (and like most things, shortages of volunteers make things
> harder)
>
> Steve Zhang
> Sent from my iPad



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