Lars Gardenius skrev 2013-09-05 15:53:
As said I think it is an obvious structural problem of the Wiki organization.
I disagree to that statement.
While Fred is about right likening sv:wp to a medium sized town, being a
bit idyllic, even if persons have feelings here to a get in a conflict
too (it is the way we, the community, resolve this that differs)
My message is:Even if en:wp with its size need strong structures around
administration let us not in general pursue the road of more structures.
Let us instead learn to be more human in our intracommunicaition on the
wikis (while still being determined to throw out Pov pusher, selfrpomos etc)
Anders
I don't think the intention of this thread was to solve a single issue but to
point out a general problem.
Regards,
Lars Gardenius
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For a serious discussion to happen you will need to disclose some
examples. The next step is to move beyond anecdote to see if there is a
general problem.
The particular incident Rui brought up has been pretty much explained,
but the question remains about have a new or casual editor who commits a
faux pas can simply be reminded not to rather than being vilified and
being turned away completely. Everyone does dumb stuff, especially at
first. The question is whether they learn anything from it.
Fred
Sorry, but I have seen several instances where it certainly doesn't work.
Not in a way you would expect in a normal society anyhow.
Regards,
Lars Gardenius
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I wouldn't say dispute resolution has never worked, nor does it not work
now. It could use improvement, but the same could be said about
everything (and like most things, shortages of volunteers make things
harder)
Steve Zhang
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