On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-09-06 1:07 GMT+02:00 Steven Walling <steven.wall...@gmail.com>: > >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > IMO the WMF should stop focusing on English Wikipedia as a target >> > deploy site, and stop allowing its product management team and WMF >> > staff in general to be salesman for it - it is scaring the community >> > that all WMF staff seem to be so heavily vested in this 'product' as >> > the salvation of the wikis. >> > >> >> This is rank hyperbole. >> >> The MediaWiki deployment train delivers new software to all projects every >> week. One stage is to non-Wikipedia projects, which actually get new >> software *first.* Then in a second stage is for all Wikipedias >> simultaneously. So the default behavior for rollouts, if all you do is >> merge your code and wait, is that English Wikipedia gets basically no >> special treatment..[1] >> >> Now, for larger feature rollouts like VisualEditor or MediaViewer, the >> testing stage and eventual launch set their own special schedule. We have >> used English Wikipedia as a testing ground a lot in the past, which is >> natural when you consider a variety of factors.[2] That doesn't mean we >> haven't worked hard to test things out with non-English projects. Some >> examples: >> > > > > I am sure you have tested things out on various wikis, but I can confirm > that seeing things been rolled out from a non-English wiki, they multiple > times look like if the English community has requested it or has been > copied from. One (large) example is the TemplateData part of the > VisualEditor which seems to us (nl-wiki) copied from the English Wikipedia, > in multiple ways. This is not how we work with templates.
IIRC Visual Editor depends on writing TemplateData JSON for all your projects templates, using a mix of local language (parameter descriptions) and English (JSON keywords), which works real well for languages like Arabic and Hebrew. -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
