Sorry, that of course should have read: "I'd appreciate some sort of response from you Michael that does NOT include ad hominem attacks."
I guess I've been a Wikimedian so long that ad hominem attacks are often the norm, rather than the exception. Or it could have just been a brainfart. I'll let the reader decide. Russavia On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > Michael, > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name> wrote: > >> I regret that Fae has thought it necessary to bring his personal >> grievance against the UK chapter and one specific individual over to the >> Wikimedia-l mailing list now that he is unable to make such comments on the >> Wikimedia-UK list or the WMUK website. I would hope that the moderators >> will consider whether providing a platform for this type of attack is >> conducive to the health of the Wikimedia movement. >> >> Best regards >> >> Michael > > > I don't really see any sort of attack in what Fae has written; but is > posting his opinion and information gained from his own time as trustee of > Wikimedia UK. If you want to refute what he has to say, then do so. But > what you are essentially asking for is an echo chamber. > > A question has been raised on this list as it relates to WMUK, so all and > sundry should be able to provide information relating to it. > > Perhaps, you as Chairman of WMUK, could explain to us all publicly why the > WMF is willing to forego approx $500,000 in gift aid and has pulled WMUK's > ability to accept donations, and therefore still be eligible for that gift > aid. Fae was essentially blamed, at least in the public eye, for all the > failings of WMUK in the past, however the decision by the WMF is only a > recent one, so there are still obvious failings at WMUK, and it can't be > attributed to Fae. It is absolutely right that questions be asked; but your > solution is to ban those who are asking the questions. That is not on. > > I'd appreciate some sort of response from you Michael that does include ad > hominem attacks. Refer to > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg > for where we should be (the top) and where we're at. > > Regards, > > Russavia > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>