I am 100% sure that such feature is optional: users must have the option to deactivate it. The feature will only work if it is an opt-out feature, because if users are informed about adding to Wikidata, most of them do. It are exactly those users who have not been informed which should get a message.
Romaine 2015-10-29 21:19 GMT+01:00 Todd Allen <[email protected]>: > If you've had some users requesting such a feature, could it perhaps be > added as an opt-in preference setting? I'd be very annoyed by such a > feature if it couldn't be disabled, and many might just be confused by it. > On Oct 29, 2015 2:08 PM, "Romaine Wiki" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That is comparing it with wrong examples that are not relevant here. > > On Wikipedia we have the guideline that articles an categories should be > > added to Wikidata, that originates back to the phase that only manual > > interwikis existed. > > > > And we have already received complaints why users do not get a message > > after they created a category/article to add it to Wikidata. > > > > Further I propose this only for (logged in) users, and perhaps further > > settings are possible. > > > > At the moment the largest workload is coming from articles that are not > > added to Wikidata. Some users produce five articles a day, all not added > to > > Wikidata, while the articles are fine. In two days we have about 100 new > > articles on nl-wiki, all not added to Wikidata. This is just one wiki, > and > > a huge workload to get them added properly. > > > > Romaine > > > > > > 2015-10-29 20:46 GMT+01:00 Risker <[email protected]>: > > > > > Whatever happened to "Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit"? > > > > > > This is adding a layer of complexity and expectation that I don't > really > > > feel comfortable with. We don't expect people to add images to Commons > > > when they write an article. We don't expect people to include > > definitions > > > in Wiktionary when they are using a word. We don't expect people to be > > > adding material to Wikisource or add quotes to Wikiquote. For that > > matter, > > > we don't expect people to write Wikipedia articles about what they > review > > > on wikisource, or about images they add to Commons, or quotes they add > to > > > Wikiquote. So why would we set up any kind of expectation that people > > > would add "data" to Wikidata? > > > > > > I also am concerned that people will add a new article that, bluntly > put, > > > isn't going to last more than an hour...get these messages, and add > junk > > > data to Wikidata. Wikidatians are working hard to add referencing and > > > improve what is there already, but it's a huge labour and we shouldn't > be > > > adding to their mountain of work unnecessarily. > > > > > > Risker/Anne > > > > > > On 29 October 2015 at 14:37, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I think it is time for the next step in the Wikidata development: a > > > better > > > > integration in Wikipedia and her sisterprojects. > > > > > > > > Every day thousands of articles are created, and many of those are > not > > > > added to Wikidata, even while often an item about this subject > exists. > > > > Users forget to add a newly created article to Wikidata as there is > no > > > > stimulus at all. The next step in Wikidata development is that after > > the > > > > creation of an article, users get a message (pop-up, or screen, etc) > in > > > > what they are asked to add the article/category to Wikidata. In the > > first > > > > stage this can be just a pop-up with a message. But it would be > better > > if > > > > this can be a message + some help to do this, so that users can stay > in > > > > Wikipedia (or another project), without having to go to Wikidata. > > > > > > > > A further step that can be developed after is the suggestion of > > > properties > > > > (if missing), like instance of, and based on this entry further > > > properties. > > > > > > > > This will make sure that there is a better integration of Wikipedia > and > > > her > > > > sister projects with Wikidata through this workflow. > > > > > > > > For this I created a Phabricator task at: > > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117070 > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Romaine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > [email protected] > > > > < > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/[email protected] > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
