So for a stub article the original banner was a little overbearing in relation to the content but a substantial part of that was related to that banners particular dynamics that we weren't too fond of ourselves and looking to improve.
Seddon On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:33 AM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally I think the inline banners are invasive to the content, unlike > side bar or top of page banners which dont interfere with the delivery of > content, the page layout or potentially imply association with the topic. I > also recognise that mobile presentation is already degraded to suit the > device so its aesthetics impact would be lower on that medium compared > desktop services. > > As I havent encounted one besides the screen shot and samples I cant > comment on the practical aspects of impact on a stub article over that of a > featured article nor how it relates to the subject topic. > > On 2 December 2016 at 10:17, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've been thinking about these inline ads since I first encountered one, > > which I believe was either yesterday or today. I'm uncomfortable with the > > idea of inline ads, but they seem to be clearly delineated from article > > content, and as far as I can tell there is simply no easy way to do > on-wiki > > fundraising without a certain amount of distraction to the reader. I > don't > > like this practice, but it's hard for me to say that I dislike it any > more > > than massive banners. Until WMF has such a large endowment that it no > > longer needs to do online fundraising (which would create a different set > > of financial accountability problems than we have now; maybe or maybe not > > more or less, but different) I'm reluctantly willing to go along with the > > program. If people have some convincing reasons why inline fundraising > > should not happen, I hope that they will speak up. At the moment I think > > it's OK to go with the flow. > > > > In the future I would suggest that this kind of change should be > > communicated ahead of time, on this mailing list and elsewhere. (Unless I > > missed it, which would be my fault. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pine > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hey Geni, > > > > > > So this is a style of banner that we have used on mobile over the last > > > year. We have previously had good feedback about the mobile version > with > > > people feeling it was less obtrusive to the reader experience. This > > banner > > > that you saw was one of our first attempts at seeing whether > transferring > > > this to desktop was even a viable idea. > > > > > > That test showed this design had a huge amount of potential from a > > > fundraising point of view, between a 60% & 90% increase in donations. > > > However we felt that the banner wasn't quite providing the same > > experience > > > as we were getting on mobile. The size was larger and so we think that > we > > > can refine the concept so that it remains effective but making it less > > > intrusive both than it’s current form and our current control banner ( > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1617_ > > > 1117_en6C_dsk_p2_sm_template&force=1&country=US). > > > We are working a number of smaller versions that are a little more in > > > keeping with the experience provided on mobile, so keep in mind this is > > far > > > from a finished version. > > > > > > I would like to emphasis that we are not committed to this. It's > > certainly > > > a change from what we have had in the past and, based on that, both I > and > > > my colleagues would genuinely like to hear people's views on this type > of > > > banner. For now this banner will be limited to testing and our current > > > small banner ( > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1617_ > > > 1117_en6C_dsk_p2_sm_template&force=1&country=US) > > > will be remaining our control. We would like to do a few more tests > with > > an > > > improved take on this style and I would be happy to share the outcomes > of > > > those if it would help inform the discussion. > > > > > > Regards > > > Seddon > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:56 PM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Screenshot of what I mean: > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Inline_donor_bannerbass.png > > > > > > > > Inline ads are generally considered to be something that gets into > > > > scummy advertising territory (for example even adblock plus's rather > > > > questionable Acceptable Ad policy doesn't accept them). > > > > > > > > > > > > On a related note the FAQ appears to be out of date: > > > > > > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/FAQ/en > > > > > > > > Unless we are still in the 2015-2016 fiscal year. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > geni > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/ > mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Seddon > > > > > > *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* > > > *Wikimedia Foundation* > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > GN. > President Wikimedia Australia > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Seddon *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* *Wikimedia Foundation* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
