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On 12/2/16, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, thanks for the info. I'll be interested to read a summary of the
> campaign when WMF is in a position to create one, which I'm guessing might
> be in January or February.
>
> I could ask more questions, but I think that I'd better retreat back into
> my digital cave. I have a UI project calling my name!
>
> Thanks for the rapid responses to questions and comments.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> More than it represents a feasible concept that can be significantly
>> improved upon. Reducing it's footprint, improving the look and feel so
>> that
>> it reduces its impact on the page.
>>
>> With regards to user appeals with photos:
>> 1) They are notoriously difficult to be successful. We spent a whole year
>> trying to beat Jimmy's face and Brandon was the only one who ever came
>> close.
>> 2) our banners follow closely trends on the wider web. Donor preferences
>> at
>> the moment seem to follow an image-lite experience. We tried last year
>> reintroducing info graphics or pictures only to remove them again. Its an
>> area we regularly reassess to see if our readers tastes have changed.
>>
>> Seddon
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2016 06:17, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Seddon,
>> >
>> > By "And in this instance although the test was successful, we had
>> > decided
>> > that
>> > although a winner, it was the lessons to take away that were more
>> > important. From there we hope to arrive at a banner that draws from the
>> > success but is delivered in a way that is easier on the eye." are you
>> > saying that
>> > you've decided to discontinue the inline fundraising but will use
>> > lessons
>> > learned
>> > from it to design banners?
>> >
>> > By the way, I thought that some of the WMF folks on Facebook had a good
>> > idea when they suggested the "I <3 Wikipedia" frames on peoples' profile
>> > pictures. That brings to mind that in a previous round of fundraising
>> that
>> > WMF
>> > had banners with Wikimedians' photos and some fundraising messages that
>> > I
>> > believe were written by them. Perhaps you could consider bringing back
>> > a version of that campaign.
>> >
>> > I believe that there is some tradeoff in the length of the campaign and
>> the
>> > boldness of the fundraising, so to a certain extent I'm reluctantly
>> willing
>> > to accept bold fundraising if that means that the campaign ends sooner.
>> >
>> > I feel strongly that the campaign should stick to 100% of its stated
>> > target,
>> > not intentionally overshoot the target for purposes of padding the
>> > reserves. When WMF says that its goal is $X, then it should end the
>> > campaign when it has high certainty that it has reached $X. If that
>> > means
>> > that a campaign ends a week early, so much the better.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Pine
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