Agree with mathieo it needs to be something driven by the receiving language community with WMF support rather than something being pushed in to communities from the WMF or other projects. Such if the Swahili community thought that having say medical articles translated was something it felt was needed then the WMF could support by assisting with tools, and facilities to make it happen.
On 27 February 2018 at 18:42, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > I'm not against the idea of paid translation /per se/, but it shouldn't be > managed by the WMF, should it be only to ensure that it doesn't cross too > far the line of non-intervention regarding editorial decisions. > > Debate can go on to which level it stands with this line, but to my mind > WMF always have been mainly about hosting works, not about what will be > published by who under which (non-)remunerated conditions. I think that it > is important that it stay so for example due to legal reasons regarding > responsibility of what is stated in this works. > > From this perspective, it would be probably better to have locale > collective initiatives which decide what seems the more important to be > translated and means to achieve them, should it be through paid editing > with money coming from the said collective itself. Directly financing that > kind of initiative would blur the line of the hosting position I think. But > giving visibility to this kind of locale fund raising initiatives could be > a donation in kind that would be maybe less problematic, wouldn't it? > > > > Le 24/02/2018 à 13:51, John Erling Blad a écrit : > >> This discussion is going to be fun! =D >> >> A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects has more than 65k articles, >> the remaining two hundred or so are pretty small. >> >> What if a base set of articles were opened for paid translators? There are >> several lists of such base sets. We have both the thousand articles from >> "List of articles every Wikipedia should have" and and the ten thousand >> articles from the expanded list. >> >> Lets say verified good translators was paid about $0.01 per word (about $1 >> for a 1k-article) for translating one of those articles into another >> language, with perhaps a higher pay for contributors in high-cost >> countries. The pay would also have to be higher for languages that lacks >> good translation tools. >> >> I believe this would be an _enabling_ activity for the communities, as >> without a base set of articles it won't be possible to build a community >> at >> all. By not paying for new articles, and only translating well-referenced >> articles, some of the disputes in the communities could be avoided. >> Perhaps >> we should also identify good source articles, that would be a help. >> Translated articles should be above some minimum size, but they does not >> have to be full translations of the source article. >> >> A real problem is that our existing lists of good articles other projects >> should have is pretty much biased towards Western World, so they need a >> lot >> of adjustments. Perhaps such a project would identify our inherit bias? >> >>  >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_Wikip >> edia_should_have >>  >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_every_Wikip >> edia_should_have/Expanded >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >> i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >> i/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- GN. Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com Out now: A.Gaynor, P. Newman and P. Jennings (eds.), *Never Again: Reflections on Environmental Responsibility after Roe 8*, UWAP, 2017. Order here <https://uwap.uwa.edu.au/products/never-again-reflections-on-environmental-responsibility-after-roe-8> . _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>