An update on this thread: * We have launched the survey on 2019-06-26 in 15 languages and we intend to stop the surveys 7 days after launch time. The current flow of responses is as expected.
* The participating languages are: ar, de, en (sampling from all countries), en (sampling from countries in Africa), es, fa, fr (sampling from all countries), fr (sampling from countries in Africa), he, hu, no, ro, ru, uk, zh. (A big thank you to the volunteers in these language communities who worked with us to make the translations and announcements on village pumps happen.) * Please watch https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Demographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases if you're interested to receive updates about the research as we go through the analysis. (Please expect, roughly, a monthly update frequency. If we can do more frequently, we will.) * If you want the survey to run in your language community, there is a chance that we run the same survey in a few weeks time in a few of more languages. You can express your interest by adding a line item as the last row of the table in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Characterizing_Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour/Demographics_and_Wikipedia_use_cases#Interested_languages . Priority is given to languages who have signed up prior to this announcement. We can't guarantee that we can run these extra surveys. And one logistical announcement: As some of you know, Isaac Johnson from the Research team is working heavily on this stage of the research (demographics+motivation/needs). As a result, some or all of the future announcements about this stage of the research may come from him instead of me. :) Best, Leila On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 11:07 PM David Goodman <[email protected]> wrote: > > Peter, all of these would be useful . The most useful of all would be a > list of those that have been deleted as drafts that were not improved for 6 > months--I havre a partial list, but there is no easy way of screening it. A > spreadsheet with links to the deleted versions and to the google scholar > and worldcat records would be an enormous help--I became an admin 12 years > ago specifically to rescue deleted articles, but there is no systematic way > of finding them. > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 1:33 AM Peter Southwood < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > David, > > Would your work be influenced by an analysis of the academic biographies > > which are most searched for that are not on Wikipedia yet? (assuming that > > such an targeted analysis was available) > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > PS. An analysis that included a check of whether the topic was likely to > > be notable and a listing of possible sources would also save a lot of > > wasted effort. Also a check against articles that have been deleted for > > good reasons, and articles in other languages with a reasonable accessible > > reference list. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of David Goodman > > Sent: 12 March 2019 07:15 > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] How diverse are your readers? > > > > "with popular topics cannibalizing resources." > > > > What resources can be cannibalized? The limiting resource in WP is > > interested people writing, improving, and validating articles. People > > choose their own topics. This is different from an organization where > > staff can be directed to work on what the management think is important. > > > > I, for example, almost totally avoid most aspects of what is popular > > culture--I am neither competent nor interested. ) The topics I work on are > > those that interest me, mainly academic biographies. I'm sure most people > > do not think them important. We're volunteers, and must tolerate each > > others interests. > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 5:06 PM John Erling Blad <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We should be using a grid for what people are reading about, instead > > > of using countries. That will give a better representation of large > > > countries vs small countries. It will also better reflect local ethnic > > > groups. > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 1:53 PM Amir E. Aharoni > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > בתאריך יום א׳, 10 במרץ 2019 ב-23:27 מאת Gerard Meijssen < > > > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > Hoi, > > > > > I have been thinking about it.. There is a place for research but > > > really > > > > > why can we not have the data that allows us to seek out what people > > are > > > > > actually looking for and do not find.. Why can we not promote what > > > proves > > > > > to be of interest [1] ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, there was some work done around it. Here are some examples: > > > > > > > > 1. The Discovery (Search) team in the Foundation researched searches in > > > > Wikimedia sites' search box that yielded zero results. This was done in > > > > 2016 or so, led by Dan Garry as the product manager, and this lead to > > > some > > > > improvements in the functionality of Wikimedia sites' internal search > > > > engine, although I don't remember what they were exactly. > > > > > > > > 2. Google's Project Tiger provided lists of articles for which people > > > often > > > > search in the Google search engine in India, and about which there are > > no > > > > articles in Wikipedias in languages of India. See > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Supporting_Indian_Language_Wikipedias_Program > > > > > > > > 3. Last year I made a list of articles that people search for in their > > > > language using the interlanguage links search box and cannot find. You > > > can > > > > see a sample here: > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amire80/WEIRD/2018-04-09%E2%80%932018-04-15 > > > > . I plan to make this list nicer-looking and auto-updating some time > > > soon. > > > > > > > > 4. The GapFinder project is another tool that helps people find > > articles > > > > that are missing in some wikis: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GapFinder > > > > > > > > 5. This is just an idea, but it's written down, which is a bit better > > > than > > > > nothing: Show the most popular articles by country in the PageViews > > tool, > > > > rather than just by language. It's documented at > > > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207171 . The rationale for this is > > > that > > > > the most popular English Wikipedia articles in the U.S., Nigeria, > > India, > > > > the Philippines, and South Africa are significantly different. The > > > English > > > > Wikipedia is the most popular one in all these countries, but whereas > > it > > > is > > > > sensible that it's popular in the U.S., it's a bit depressing that it's > > > > also the most popular in the other four countries, even though > > languages > > > > other than English are spoken there. The reason for this situation is, > > of > > > > course, that there is little content in the Wikipedias in the languages > > > of > > > > these countries, and knowing what the most popular articles are can > > help > > > > people who write in these languages choose how to write that will be > > > > useful, and will hopefully raise the popularity of Wikipedias in these > > > > languages. The same is true for the most popular Russian Wikipedia > > > articles > > > > in Kyrgyzstan and Moldova, the most popular French Wikipedia articles > > in > > > > Benin and Mali, etc. This is only an idea, but maybe it will be > > > implemented > > > > some day. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > > > “We're living in pieces, > > > > I want to live in peace.” – T. 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