Folks, it's not clear this email thread is going to register at all as feedback for this process.
The only recognized feedback mechanisms according to the original mail are the following: 1. Wikimedia Space group - https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network Currently 13 members 2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review No new conversations 3. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review/results A dialogue that has been started to discuss the problems of the KPIs and metrics. I'd highly suggest if you want to make your feedback count, you go to these venues. -Andrew On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 8:32 PM Ferdinando Traversa <ferdi.trave...@gmail.com> wrote: > It’ll be a very very important RFC. More than elections, it’s about all > global identity. > CentralNotice is appropriate. > > Ferdinando > > > Il giorno 7 set 2019, alle ore 22:06, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> > ha scritto: > > > > I concur, it sounds sensible. > > > > (I'll note, I'm not actually against the name change proposal - but > > it's got to be presented to the community properly.) > > > > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 20:50, Kiril Simeonovski > > <kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> HI David, > >> > >> Yes, it stands to reason to announce on all wikis in a similar way as > the > >> announcements about board or steward elections. > >> > >> Best, > >> Kiril > >> > >>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:46 PM David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On all wikis? > >>> > >>> On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Right. > >>>> > >>>> I guess a central notice about an RfC would be appropriate. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> Yaroslav > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kiril Simeonovski < > >>>> kiril.simeonov...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> > >>>>> It seems like there is a clear consensus to open an RfC on Meta about > >>> this, > >>>>> so we can safely move forward with it and close this thread. > >>> Otherwise, we > >>>>> will most likely keep up boggling our minds with the 20-per-cent > >>> metric and > >>>>> endlessly discuss how unfortunate is this for the global community > >>> when the > >>>>> only rational thing we can do is take action and save everyone's > time. > >>>>> > >>>>> Do you have any concluding remarks or comments regarding the RfC? > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> Kiril > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:57 PM Ferdinando Traversa < > >>>>> ferdi.trave...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I’m against and sincerly I don’t trust this datas (80% agrees? Are > >>> you > >>>>>> kidding me? I’ve seen the meta discussion). I think a Meta CLEAR > >>> VOTE as > >>>>>> suggested here is the best way. Imposing a change like this is a > >>> wrong > >>>>>> decision. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Il giorno 6 set 2019, alle ore 05:49, Zack McCune < > >>>>> zmcc...@wikimedia.org> > >>>>>> ha scritto: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Summary* - We want your help with a voluntary, OPT-IN design > >>> process > >>>>> for > >>>>>>> movement branding. Please join the in-depth discussion group, or > >>> watch > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> updates on Meta-Wiki. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> After 4 months of community consultation, spanning dozens of > >>>>> affiliates, > >>>>>>> several mailing lists, community conferences, and Meta-Wiki, I am > >>>>> pleased > >>>>>>> to share a summary of feedback on the proposed 2030 movement brand > >>>>>> strategy > >>>>>>> [1]. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From more than 319 comments, representing 150 individual > >>> contributors > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> 63 affiliates, we assessed 6 major themes in feedback: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Reducing confusion > >>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Protecting reputation > >>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Supporting sister projects > >>>>>>> 4. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Addressing (legal, governmental) risks > >>>>>>> 5. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Supporting movement growth > >>>>>>> 6. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The process of change > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Please visit our feedback summary page to learn more [2]. You will > >>> see > >>>>>>> examples of comments within each section, along with a rough > >>> indication > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>> how many of the comments that we received were related to each > >>> theme. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The comments sometimes contradict one another, showing that across > >>> our > >>>>>> wide > >>>>>>> movement’s experience, different points of view are common (and a > >>> sign > >>>>> of > >>>>>>> health!). To visualize these tensions, we have created “polarity > >>> maps” > >>>>>>> which are used to help visualize how different arguments coexist in > >>>>>> tension > >>>>>>> with each other. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ultimately, the comments provided from you all are very thoughtful > >>> and > >>>>>>> useful guidance on what is needed to make our movement’s branding > >>>>>>> successful. One can read the 6 themes above as “criteria” for > >>> assessing > >>>>>>> branding systems. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> == Thanks == > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would like to thank the organizers of Iberoconf, Wikipedia > >>> Education > >>>>>>> Summit, and the Wikimedia Summit for inviting us to hold > >>> discussions > >>>>>> during > >>>>>>> their sessions. I would also like to thank my colleagues Elena > >>> Lappen, > >>>>>>> Samir Elsharbaty, and Blanca Flores who conducted extensive parts > >>> of > >>>>> this > >>>>>>> consultation. To the hundreds of people, and dozens of affiliates > >>>>>>> commenting, thank you for reviewing the proposal and offering your > >>>>>>> perspectives and insights. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> == Next steps and staying involved == > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There is considerable support for the brand proposal and general > >>>>> appetite > >>>>>>> to improve our movement’s branding system. Further, we believe that > >>>>>>> critical feedback on the proposal offers direct guidance for > >>> precisely > >>>>>> what > >>>>>>> branding must do to be successful for our movement. We have shared > >>>>> these > >>>>>>> insights and our proposed continuance with the Board of Trustees, > >>> who > >>>>>>> approved continuing these efforts. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Acting on community insights, we will be collaborating on formal > >>> brand > >>>>>>> naming, visual identity, and brand system design that will use > >>>>>> “Wikipedia” > >>>>>>> as the central reference point. The resulting system will be > >>> OPT-IN for > >>>>>>> affiliates. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This design process will be guided by a “brand network” – a group > >>> of > >>>>>>> volunteers who would like to continue advising on brand during this > >>>>>>> consultation. Dozens of people have already volunteered, and we > >>> invite > >>>>>> you > >>>>>>> to join the group. We will use a group on Wikimedia Space to host > >>> this > >>>>>>> discussion and the group will be closed to allow candid > >>> discussions and > >>>>>>> room for iterations. EVERYONE IS INVITED TO JOIN [3]. If you do not > >>>>> want > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>> commit to the in-depth, longer term discussions that will be > >>> happening > >>>>>>> within the brand network group, we will still be tracking comments > >>> left > >>>>>> on > >>>>>>> the project’s Meta-Wiki page [4]. Furthermore, all important ideas > >>> and > >>>>>>> updates originating from the brand network discussion will be > >>> shared > >>>>>>> publicly to mailing lists and Meta-Wiki. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The development of this proposed identity system will take > >>>>> approximately > >>>>>> 6 > >>>>>>> months. As stated, regular updates will be shared to mailing lists, > >>>>>>> Wikimedia Space, and Meta-Wiki [4]. Please engage us where you are > >>> most > >>>>>>> comfortable! Once complete, community groups will have the power to > >>>>>> decide > >>>>>>> if/when they opt in to using the new system. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yours, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Zack > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/02/26/leading-with-wikipedia-a-brand-proposal-for-2030/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_research_and_planning/community_review/results > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [3] https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/g/brand-network and click > >>> the > >>>>> gray > >>>>>>> "Request" button. 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