Agreed with John and Gnangarra. Re: John's point about Brianna's suggestion - I would have been under the impression that the right to edit would under that model be granted to specific known individuals, so the committee would already be aware of the person involved, perceive a tangible benefit in having them editing (i.e. "we need help with something, this person has the skills/knowhow/whatever to help us in that way to the extent we should overlook their non-membership status to give them editing rights"), and be able to decide on that basis.
cheers Andrew 2009/6/14 Gnangarra <[email protected]> > Reading this I see that there may be a shift as to what the purpose of the > Wiki was for, from my understanding it was for the record keeping related to > WM-au activities, this would include some discussions and event notices but > I cant see any purpose that we would have a need for non-members to have > open access to our records that couldnt be managed by the creation of an > account for that purpose. > > If an individual wants the rights of a member then $40 membership fee is a > very small barrier to gain such rights. > > > > 2009/6/14 John Vandenberg <[email protected]> > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Sarah Ewart<[email protected]> wrote: >> > Yes, I also agree there's no consensus, but remember that this isn't the >> > English Wikipedia and we don't necessarily do things by consensus. >> WP:CON >> > can be useful in group decision making, but we're not bound by it and >> having >> > a Wikipedia-style "consensus" for something doesn't necessarily mean it >> will >> > or won't happen as the Chapter and the committee have obligations and >> > responsibilities outside a "consensus" among half-a-dozen people on a >> > mailing list. >> > >> > When we were setting up the official wiki, the committee considered >> using >> > flagged revs for members. (see: >> > >> http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Resolution:Officialwiki_configuration_and_accounts >> ) >> > I'm not sure what ended up happening with it or how far we got towards >> > implementation, but I guess we could consider the possibility of using >> > flagged revs. >> >> The original intention was that flagged revs was going to prevent >> members from making unapproved changes to pages which need committee >> approval before modification can go live. So far we haven't needed >> that. >> >> Before non-members can edit the WM-AU website, a new resolution from >> the committee would be needed. >> >> > However, I feel that Brianna raised some important issues with regard to >> > members v non-members editing that can't just be cast aside. >> >> Brianna's suggestion is feasible, if a committee is willing to take on >> the extra work involved in managing the new account requests. As >> there is no monetary disincentive, the process of accepting >> non-members would require verification of wiki-identity where >> applicable; there are plenty of people who would love to waste our >> time in order to have a few lulz. And as these users will not be >> members, there will be no compensation for time and effort of whoever >> is handling new non-member account setup. >> >> We still have a meta presence, and non-members can knock themselves >> out over there. As a result, I am opposed to opening the doors for >> the sake of a few spelling corrections. Currently we don't need or >> want an active administration team. >> >> > Nick, I also don't think editing privs is an effective draw-card for >> getting >> > more members. I can't imagine anyone being motivated to join WMAu so >> they >> > can edit the official wiki. But we don't currently have the ability to >> offer >> > much in tangible members privs so it counts in "What do I get?". >> >> If someone indicated they were willing to pay $40 in order to edit our >> website, I would be quite worried about their motivations. >> >> -- >> John Vandenberg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> > > > > -- > GN. > http://gnangarra.redbubble.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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