oh... ok! carry on :-) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see any such consensus emerging in this discussion - it actually > seems to be more the other way. > > 2009/6/9 private musings <[email protected]> > >> it looks to me like we're heading for consensus that a bit more open >> editing would be a good thing - not for IP addresses, but for folk who have >> confirmed their email address (per Nick's technical suggestion)... could we >> implement this or could someone suitably empowered indicate how they see >> this developing / further thoughts :-) >> I think just getting a bit more energy / input into wm-au would be a good >> thing at the mo - and for me this includes welcoming non-member editors at >> this time..... >> cheers, >> Peter, >> PM. >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Indeed. Agreed with Sarah's post - she put it far better than I did :) >>> >>> If there is a learning curve for new users, perhaps we could simply >>> include a FAQ on editing the communal wiki or a link to it in the welcome >>> pack/greeting that members receive when they first join. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> 2009/6/5 Sarah Ewart <[email protected]> >>> >>>> I can't say I'm enamored with the idea of anonymous editing. As I >>>> recall, we had several reasons for restricting editing. As Liam said, one >>>> was to provide members privs (editing rights for the wiki is still listed >>>> on >>>> the membership page as a member's benefit), and another was concern about >>>> disruption - vandals, spammers, and whatnot. I don't think we're currently >>>> equipped to deal with the 'cons' that go along with the 'pros' of anonymous >>>> editing. Currently we have 32 registered users, minus at least four testing >>>> and alternate accounts. Of the remaining 28, 4 are classed as active >>>> (edited >>>> in the last 7 days) and a large portion of the rest have never edited >>>> outside establishing user/user talk pages. From a practical standpoint, I >>>> would be very concerned about how the extra cleanup and monitoring of >>>> recent >>>> changes, which inevitably goes hand-in-hand with anonymous editing, would >>>> be >>>> managed so that it wouldn't just become another job for a small number of >>>> people who already have a lot of work to do (don't meant that to sound at >>>> all snarky :)). Also agree with what Brianna said about members v open >>>> spaces and undue influence on the Chapter from non-members etc. >>>> >>>> I do, however, agree with Peter's comments about reasons people without >>>> memberships and accounts may find themselves wanting to edit and it would >>>> be >>>> nice to find a way to facilitate this but I can't imagine that I would >>>> support anonymous editing at least until/unless we have a reasonably active >>>> wiki community and that seems unlikely for the foreseeable future. Also I >>>> honestly don't think that creating an account is currently that onerous for >>>> members and you don't have to write emails. Simply fill out this form to >>>> request an account - >>>> http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Special:RequestAccount >>>> >>>> -Sarah >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Liam Wyatt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From what I recall, the reason we didn't have open editing of the >>>>> Wikimedia Australia wiki is by way of providing something special to >>>>> members. I am personally not against the idea of opening up the editing to >>>>> non-members but AFAICR that was the issue - not a technical one. >>>>> -Liam >>>>> >>>>> wittylama.com/blog >>>>> Peace, love & metadata >>>>> Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:36 PM, private musings < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> found myself nodding furiously at Pengo's first post :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> @nickj - it sound to me that you have the appropriate technical know >>>>>> how to implement the 'open editing once you've confirmed your email' >>>>>> approach which this thread seems to be moving towards - would you be >>>>>> prepared to make the appropriate necessary technical changes, given the >>>>>> appropriate access? >>>>>> >>>>>> @brianna / other committee types reading - would you mind nick having >>>>>> said access, and making said changes? I think it'd be most helpful :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> it'd be very cool to move towards resolving this one in reasonably >>>>>> short order :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter, >>>>>> PM. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, K. Peachey >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> > If spam is the main reason to have accounts, would using a CAPTCHA >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> > non-confirmed accounts help? (is that a simple option in >>>>>>> Mediawiki?) >>>>>>> > Otherwise I'd recommend nothing more restrictive than "confirm >>>>>>> email address >>>>>>> > to edit" >>>>>>> > Peter Halasz >>>>>>> > [[User:Pengo]] >>>>>>> I believe, although maybe wrong but its part of the core until a user >>>>>>> is autoconfirmed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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