I don't see any such consensus emerging in this discussion - it actually seems to be more the other way.
2009/6/9 private musings <[email protected]> > it looks to me like we're heading for consensus that a bit more open > editing would be a good thing - not for IP addresses, but for folk who have > confirmed their email address (per Nick's technical suggestion)... could we > implement this or could someone suitably empowered indicate how they see > this developing / further thoughts :-) > I think just getting a bit more energy / input into wm-au would be a good > thing at the mo - and for me this includes welcoming non-member editors at > this time..... > cheers, > Peter, > PM. > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Indeed. Agreed with Sarah's post - she put it far better than I did :) >> >> If there is a learning curve for new users, perhaps we could simply >> include a FAQ on editing the communal wiki or a link to it in the welcome >> pack/greeting that members receive when they first join. >> >> Andrew >> >> 2009/6/5 Sarah Ewart <[email protected]> >> >>> I can't say I'm enamored with the idea of anonymous editing. As I recall, >>> we had several reasons for restricting editing. As Liam said, one was to >>> provide members privs (editing rights for the wiki is still listed on the >>> membership page as a member's benefit), and another was concern about >>> disruption - vandals, spammers, and whatnot. I don't think we're currently >>> equipped to deal with the 'cons' that go along with the 'pros' of anonymous >>> editing. Currently we have 32 registered users, minus at least four testing >>> and alternate accounts. Of the remaining 28, 4 are classed as active (edited >>> in the last 7 days) and a large portion of the rest have never edited >>> outside establishing user/user talk pages. From a practical standpoint, I >>> would be very concerned about how the extra cleanup and monitoring of recent >>> changes, which inevitably goes hand-in-hand with anonymous editing, would be >>> managed so that it wouldn't just become another job for a small number of >>> people who already have a lot of work to do (don't meant that to sound at >>> all snarky :)). Also agree with what Brianna said about members v open >>> spaces and undue influence on the Chapter from non-members etc. >>> >>> I do, however, agree with Peter's comments about reasons people without >>> memberships and accounts may find themselves wanting to edit and it would be >>> nice to find a way to facilitate this but I can't imagine that I would >>> support anonymous editing at least until/unless we have a reasonably active >>> wiki community and that seems unlikely for the foreseeable future. Also I >>> honestly don't think that creating an account is currently that onerous for >>> members and you don't have to write emails. Simply fill out this form to >>> request an account - http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Special:RequestAccount >>> >>> -Sarah >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Liam Wyatt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> From what I recall, the reason we didn't have open editing of the >>>> Wikimedia Australia wiki is by way of providing something special to >>>> members. I am personally not against the idea of opening up the editing to >>>> non-members but AFAICR that was the issue - not a technical one. >>>> -Liam >>>> >>>> wittylama.com/blog >>>> Peace, love & metadata >>>> Sent from Sydney, Nsw, Australia >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:36 PM, private musings <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> found myself nodding furiously at Pengo's first post :-) >>>>> >>>>> @nickj - it sound to me that you have the appropriate technical know >>>>> how to implement the 'open editing once you've confirmed your email' >>>>> approach which this thread seems to be moving towards - would you be >>>>> prepared to make the appropriate necessary technical changes, given the >>>>> appropriate access? >>>>> >>>>> @brianna / other committee types reading - would you mind nick having >>>>> said access, and making said changes? I think it'd be most helpful :-) >>>>> >>>>> it'd be very cool to move towards resolving this one in reasonably >>>>> short order :-) >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Peter, >>>>> PM. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:41 PM, K. Peachey >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> > If spam is the main reason to have accounts, would using a CAPTCHA >>>>>> for >>>>>> > non-confirmed accounts help? (is that a simple option in Mediawiki?) >>>>>> > Otherwise I'd recommend nothing more restrictive than "confirm email >>>>>> address >>>>>> > to edit" >>>>>> > Peter Halasz >>>>>> > [[User:Pengo]] >>>>>> I believe, although maybe wrong but its part of the core until a user >>>>>> is autoconfirmed. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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