Bidgee has also provided excellent outcomes for the photography grant(s?) he received.
> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:38:19 +0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query > > well some that come to mind > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Freo - Freopedia only cost for > WMAU has been Craig to Perth for the Launch, and from reports was well > recieved at Wikimania in Hong Kong... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Waroona, > prelude to a Wikitown there. > then there 2 of us doign a workshop tomorrow in Toodyay, and 3 of us > being part of the Shire of Toodyay demostrations on Saturday for a > third WikiTown there -- WMAU approved $200 to cover some expenses but > well below the true costs of running the two > > add to that, the work of SatuSuro > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Takes_Western_Australian_Wheatbelt_Railways_2013 > and to that a larger Wheatbelt project... > > Its not talking about ideas thats going to change things it needs more > people to get out there and do things, > > Gideon > > On 8 October 2013 10:39, Adam Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > I realised one big mistake in the wording of my email. The question as to > > what projects we can put into place is not intended at the committee as > > such, but for everyone interested. I've started talking to people about some > > ideas, but I'm wondering how we, as WMAU, can work out some really good > > projects to put us into a position where we exceed the WMF's expectations, > > and what ideas to do so we can come up with. :) > > > > Adam. > > > > > > > > On 8 October 2013 11:50, Leigh Blackall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> kickstarter? > >> I think it now does Australian projects... > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Adam Jenkins <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> Thanks for explaining things. I need to say upfront that I'm not trying > >>> to raise doubts about the ARC linkage grant. But from reading the replies, > >>> we are currently in the process of committing $140k over three years based > >>> on existing funds of (at best) $75k. I disagree that we should be tackling > >>> this on the understanding that we can pull out in subsequent years - it > >>> would be very unusual for that to be permitted, as it would leave the > >>> university with insufficient funds to complete the research. If that > >>> happened, the university would have to convince another partner to cover > >>> the > >>> remaining funds, reduce the research scope, or cancel the project. If > >>> cancelled, we damage our reputation with partner institutions as well as > >>> losing any money previously invested. If a partner steps up, we damage our > >>> reputation. We need to go into this with the intent of being committed for > >>> the full amount, not with the belief that we are able to pull out if the > >>> funds don't materialise. > >>> > >>> So from what you are saying, we are in trouble. Not as much trouble as we > >>> would be if the $50k payment was still expected in 2014, but not in a nice > >>> place. We have only half the funds needed to meet existing (or at least in > >>> process) commitments over the next three years, (and are short of having > >>> enough funds to meet our commitments in the next two years), have no > >>> additional funds to spend on new projects unless we pull the money from > >>> the > >>> linkage grant commitment (which will increase the risk of defaulting) or > >>> pull out of that project (which we certainly do not want to do), and are > >>> being told that we would be unsuccessful in getting funds through the > >>> major > >>> funding body (the FDC) that has been providing grants to the Chapters. > >>> > >>> Going on the assumption that we should move forward with the linkage > >>> grant, (which we should do), we need to guarantee at least $10k from the > >>> WMF > >>> or the FDC to meet the 2015 commitment, assuming no additional > >>> expenditure, > >>> and $50k to meet 2016. This will be difficult, in that I gather there > >>> will > >>> not be a deliverable until 2017, so we need to present this as a three > >>> year > >>> program instead of focusing on the annual grant model, or we will need to > >>> show metrics which can be applied each year. This is especially > >>> problematic > >>> for us as the measuring tools linked to do not seem to work well for this > >>> sort of project. That said, I don't think that any of this is impossible. > >>> > >>> So back to my initial question, how do we tackle this? At worst, we need > >>> funding through Round 1 of the 2014/2015 FDC grants process, which means > >>> we > >>> need to be in a position to successfully request funding by September next > >>> year, or be assured that we can get funds for our needs through an > >>> alternative grants process by the end of 2015. Thus, what projects can we > >>> put in place that either require no funding or very limited funding, will > >>> be > >>> fully completed by September 2014, (including all reporting requirements > >>> and > >>> metrics), and will be impressive enough as a set to justify a large grant > >>> for an unusual project? And if we do need more funding for these projects, > >>> how much time do we need to factor in so as to go through the grants > >>> process > >>> with the WMF, or do we risk pulling funds from those currently committed? > >>> > >>> I should also add that I think that the committee and members have done > >>> some great work over the last year. I think part of the problem is that we > >>> haven't been informing the WMF of the successes and strength of the > >>> current > >>> committee as well as we should. In coming up with new projects, we should > >>> also be looking at how we share the successes beyond the metrics offered. > >>> I > >>> believe that if the WMF was better aware of some of the work the committee > >>> has been doing, funding would be much less of an issue. > >>> > >>> Adam. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7 October 2013 23:34, G. White <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Adam, > >>>> > >>>> I went to the initial meeting/workshop/training session of the new > >>>> Program Evaluation and Design (PE&D) Team that is now working closely > >>>> with > >>>> the Grants Team. In line with what Sue has recently said about measurable > >>>> impact for money spent, the team is developing and disseminating tools to > >>>> help Wikimedians gather data to help measure the inputs/outputs/outcomes > >>>> and > >>>> longer term impacts of programs and activities. They have produced this > >>>> data > >>>> prep sheet. Here is the Evaluation Portal. > >>>> > >>>> Craig is right about getting demonstrable small runs on the board to > >>>> show we can plan AND deliver - that is, BOTH, not just one or the other. > >>>> When I was talking to some of the leaders of the Grants team, they were > >>>> bewildered at the fractiousness and unresponsiveness of the Australian > >>>> chapter (they were referring to the period before the last Chapter > >>>> election). From a distance, the level of general disarray and argument > >>>> appears comparable to the US government's current paralysis, and about as > >>>> comprehensible. > >>>> > >>>> The Chapter needs good processes because good processes produce good > >>>> outcomes. However, processes are not the same thing as rules. We need to > >>>> quietly and competently incorporate any necessary rules into our > >>>> processes. > >>>> Kerry and Craig are working on this. Then we need to document our > >>>> processes > >>>> and get on with small, achievable, well planned programs. I agree with > >>>> Craig > >>>> that our success will not be measured in how much funding we get. > >>>> > >>>> Whiteghost.ink > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 7 October 2013 19:27, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Before WMAU would need to pay even the first year of money for the > >>>>> linkage grant, we (WMAU, UQ and APC) have to agree a legal contract in > >>>>> relation to project. The UQ-drafted contract we have been given would > >>>>> seek > >>>>> to commit WMAU to all 3 years of funding. Obviously WMAU does not wish > >>>>> to > >>>>> agree to that given the uncertainty in relation to this funding and we > >>>>> will > >>>>> be seeking to have the contract varied to allow us to not make the > >>>>> subsequent payments if we have not been able to obtain those funds from > >>>>> WMF > >>>>> (or elsewhere). There are other issues with the contract in relation to > >>>>> intellectual property, levels of indemnity etc that also need to be > >>>>> resolved. I agree with Craig that this is likely to be a slow process. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If any WMAU member happens to be a lawyer, we would be very happy to > >>>>> have your assistance in this matter. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Kerry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig > >>>>> Franklin > >>>>> Sent: Monday, 7 October 2013 3:31 PM > >>>>> To: Wikimedia-au > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Adam, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for the question. As you've noted, we haven't put in a funding > >>>>> request to this round's FDC process. This has largely come about > >>>>> because in > >>>>> discussions with members of the FDC and the Foundation staff supporting > >>>>> the > >>>>> FDC, we were 'encouraged' not to apply in this round for a variety of > >>>>> reasons. Chief among those was a desire to see a more substantial > >>>>> record of > >>>>> evaluation, impact, and value for money in the projects that we do. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To this end, we need to reposition the chapter from an organisation > >>>>> that attempts large, expensive, and complex projects to an organisation > >>>>> that > >>>>> sets goals that are more modest, measurable, and achievable. This is > >>>>> going > >>>>> to require a cultural shift in the way we administer the chapter, as our > >>>>> previous success in participating in the fundraiser means that we have > >>>>> not > >>>>> developed the evaluation and project management mechanisms that we would > >>>>> have done if we'd continued to evolve without the sudden windfall > >>>>> injection > >>>>> of tens of thousands of dollars. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> In relation to the actual figures and numbers, I'm happy to share > >>>>> those. Please note that the figures I'm quoting here are only > >>>>> approximate, > >>>>> I'm sure that John Vandenberg can come and give more precise figures if > >>>>> they're needed. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The commitment for the first round of the Paralympic project is in the > >>>>> realm of $25,000. This payment has not yet been made, while we > >>>>> continue to > >>>>> work with UQ and APC to determine how this will work administratively. > >>>>> As > >>>>> you've noted, this money is quarantined and locked in, subject to the > >>>>> necessary paperwork with UQ and APC being agreed to. At the moment, I'm > >>>>> expecting the actual payment will probably not occur until early in > >>>>> calendar > >>>>> year 2014 (but I might be pleasantly surprised). Kerry is handling the > >>>>> direct negotiation with APC and UQ and may be able to provide further > >>>>> context. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Year two and three come to about $50k a pop, but this money is *not* > >>>>> guaranteed. We have been extremely upfront with everyone involved that > >>>>> we > >>>>> will only be able to fund the second and third years if we get the money > >>>>> from the Foundation (or from elsewhere). So at some point we're going > >>>>> to > >>>>> need to ask for this money, but not for quite some time. Obviously, > >>>>> we've > >>>>> been firm that the best way to actually guarantee that we'll get the > >>>>> funding > >>>>> is for the first year's investment to produce those measurable outcomes > >>>>> for > >>>>> the Wikimedia movement so we can make a good argument that it's a > >>>>> project > >>>>> worth investing further in. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> We currently have on the order of $80k in cash reserves, and if you > >>>>> subtract the $25k for the APC project that leaves us with about > >>>>> Subtract > >>>>> another $5k for essential running costs over the next year (financial > >>>>> software, office supplies, etc etc), and that leaves us with about $50k > >>>>> to > >>>>> play with. $50k is a lot of money and it should be possible to achieve > >>>>> a > >>>>> lot of impact with this, especially if we keep in mind that projects > >>>>> should > >>>>> be modest, measurable, and achievable. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> More generally speaking, I am wary of equating success for the chapter > >>>>> purely in terms of how many dollars we can squeeze out of the > >>>>> Foundation. > >>>>> Success needs to be measured in terms of our impact, whether that is the > >>>>> creation of new content, the recruitment of new editors, or encouraging > >>>>> diversity. I believe that by concentrating on smaller and simpler > >>>>> projects, > >>>>> we can have a measurable impact in those spaces within the next twelve > >>>>> months, without exhausting our reserve funds, which will put us in a > >>>>> much > >>>>> better position to request money for the Linkage Grant and other > >>>>> programmes > >>>>> in the future. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> > >>>>> Craig > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Message: 1 > >>>>> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 15:18:09 +0000 > >>>>> From: Adam Jenkins <[email protected]> > >>>>> To: Wikimedia-au <[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding query > >>>>> Message-ID: > >>>>> > >>>>> <cabrrgoa3eyqtkpilw42asfhw0qsvnns5ri_hrhxa+25icoc...@mail.gmail.com> > >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi! > >>>>> > >>>>> I was surprised to see that WMAU didn't put in an application for > >>>>> funding > >>>>> with the FDC in the October round. As a result, we won't be getting any > >>>>> funds from that route in 2013, especially as we didn't apply in the > >>>>> earlier > >>>>> round. As near as I can figure, we currently have commitments of at > >>>>> least > >>>>> $54k in 2014 as part of the ARC Linkage grant, along with the $29k > >>>>> commitment for 2013 (which was quarantined and covered), but it seems > >>>>> that > >>>>> meeting these commitments will drain us of remaining funds unless > >>>>> something > >>>>> has changed with the Linkage grant or we have an alternative revenue > >>>>> stream > >>>>> in place. > >>>>> > >>>>> In light of comments about the possible changes to FDC funding, where > >>>>> does > >>>>> this leave us? Do we have sufficient funds to see us out until June, > >>>>> 2014, > >>>>> when the next FDC round is due to be decided? > >>>>> > >>>>> It seems that this may be worth discussing, especially if there's > >>>>> anything > >>>>> that we can do to get alternative revenue sources in place. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Adan, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- > >> Leigh Blackall > >> +61(0)404561009 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > > > -- > GN. > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > Gn. 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