Absolutely, and when we approach a city about doing a network, we are QUICK to point out that Tropos only has one radio.
John >-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Unger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:45 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes > >Matt, > >A multi-band mesh node does the backhaul on 5 GHz (sometimes with more >than one 5 GHz radio). This reduces (but certainly doesn't eliminate) >the 2.4 GHz self-interference and other-network-interference level. > >The reason the big muni projects often select Tropos is that Tropos has >the best marketing effort out there and has been "in the game" longer >than most other mesh equipment vendors. > >I predict it won't take too may big Tropos-based muni networks to fail >before future big-city muni administrators will "see the light" and >chose other, more throughput-capable mesh vendors. > >jack > > >Matt Liotta wrote: > >> In recent post I explained that here in Atlanta you can only use a >> single 2.4 channel because of the noise floor. How is a multi-band mesh >> node going to work? >> >> Maybe there is a reason the big muni projects keep selecting Tropos. >> >> -Matt >> >> Jack Unger wrote: >> >>> Dawn, >>> >>> Thanks for posting the St. Cloud PepLink and HP info. >>> >>> Using standard CPE (PePLink)is very good but using Tropos nodes is >>> very, very bad. Very bad because they only have one single 2.4 GHz >>> radio so after 2 or 3 hops, all the throughput capability is gone not >>> to mention that the interference level from having all the access and >>> backhaul packets colliding on 2.4 GHz (along with any WISP and other >>> 2.4 GHz network packets) will slow all the networks (muni and WISP) >>> down further. I hate to "finger" anyone but Tropos' stubborn refusal >>> or inability (anyone at Tropos listening???) to produce a 2-band mesh >>> node is going to doom them to failure along with any big city that >>> deploys their nodes without an extremely efficient point-to-multipoint >>> backbone design on 5 GHz. >>> >>> jack >>> >>> >>> Dawn DiPietro wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.peplink.com/060306.php >>>> >>>> Date: March 7, 2006* >>>> PePLink announces as the official Citywide Wireless CPE provider for >>>> City of St. Cloud in Florida * >>>> >>>> *Hong Kong, Mar 7, 2006 - *PePLink, a leader in citywide WiFi >>>> wireless broadband devices today announced the City of St. Cloud, FL, >>>> a suburb of Orlando, has chosen PePLink to be the official wireless >>>> CPE provider for the Cyber Spot, the City's 100% free citywide >>>> high-speed wireless Internet service. >>>> >>>> With a reliable, secure, ease of use wireless CPE - PePLink Surf, >>>> every citizen or business in the city of St. Cloud can connect to the >>>> citywide wireless network at a high speed. The CPE greatly enhances >>>> the throughput and reliability of both up and down link compared with >>>> a wireless-enabled computer desktop or notebook computer. >>>> >>>> The simple true plug and play nature of the PePLink Surf helps the >>>> citizens in St. Cloud to bring the wireless signal indoors with ease. >>>> At the same time, the PePLink Surf units can be remotely managed, >>>> monitored and provisioned by PePLink's carrier-grade management and >>>> reporting solution, PCMS (or PePLink Centralized Management System). >>>> This can ensure a scalable and rapid rollout of the wireless systems >>>> within a short period of time. This eliminates an onsite installation >>>> charge. >>>> >>>> "Being chosen by City of St. Cloud has further endorsed our >>>> capability to offer reliable wireless solutions to municipal wireless >>>> networks built with mesh network technology," said Alex Chan, >>>> Managing Director of PePLink. "PePLink Surf together with PCMS is the >>>> complete solution specifically designed for today's citywide wireless >>>> networks." >>>> >>>> PePLink Surf series consists of Surf 200BG and Surf 400BG. For more >>>> information on PePLink Surf series, please visit >>>> http://www.peplink.com <http://www.peplink.com/>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >>>> >>>>> roflol >>>>> >>>>> The city is selling "signal boosters" (I read that as amps) to >>>>> anyone that wants them for $170? >>>>> >>>>> Oh man, this deployment is gonna come CRASHING down. Hard. >>>>> >>>>> It's really too bad these people are too ignorant, stubborn or just >>>>> plain stupid to call any of us in to help. >>>>> >>>>> sigh >>>>> >>>>> Marlon >>>>> (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >>>>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services >>>>> 42846865 (icq) And I run my own >>>>> wisp! >>>>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:07 AM >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Pioneering Wi-Fi City Sees Startup Woes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_hi_te/muni_wi_fi_hiccups >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not a fan of muni wireless. >>>>>> >>>>>> George >>>>>> -- >>>>>> WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> --- >>>> >>> >> > >-- >Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 >Author of the WISP Handbook - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" >True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting >Our next WISP Workshops are April 12-13 and April 26-27 >Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com > > > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
