Jon, When discussing GPS, you continue to offer examples from the licensed world, which is about as relevant as trying to do an apples to apples comparisons of mobile licensed cellular service plans with UL fixed wireless. As I have said before (last week), licensed uses GPS due to the necessity of having to re-use a small amount of channel over and over again, cell after cell. That's not the case in the UL world, except perhaps for Canopy whose bandwidth availability is so low relative to the channel.
Jon, you, me, the fence post and everyone else knows why Canopy -- alone in the entire UL 5GHz world -- requires GPS to scale, it's to keep from stepping all over itself. It is not even a debatable point. The recommendation is right there in Canopy white papers -- let me paraphrase: "Deploying Canopy? What to scale? Buy this $1,500 cluster management module for each cell! (P.S. Don't forget the $125 power supply.)" Seriously, saying Canopy's GPS (something you have to pay extra for even) is a value-added feature is like saying my car is special because it has tires. I have to hand it to Motorola though, they have convinced you that the one thing no other brand needs in UL, is something you have the privilege of paying extra for just to get your brand to work well in even modest scale in the first place. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived I didn't make any 'claims' and as for 1,000 cpe, that's possible with wifi(although I'd hate to be one of the end-users). Some of the differences is how happy the customers are(reliability seems to play key here), whether they're business or res., how easy it is to have lower cost employees deploy the network(as opposed to me and other "qualified" or "certified" engineers that charge $10K's more/yr), and how tasked the support and management department is, etc. Things that factor into operating a real world wisp. My kind of business is one I can leave for a vacation or another venture while having confidence the thing is going to continue growing while I'm gone. As for GPS sync. Maybe the cellular guys were wrong the whole time, must be another Moto consipiracy and maybe mention that to everyone that developed 802.16d/e(WIMAX) including your own Alvarion engineers! ;) No GPS is not required, but it sure makes a lot of sense and is arguably 'proper' for a multi cell deployment. I predict this is one of those things that the novice wisp will someday either understand, moved on beyond wireless last mile, or stuck it out and trained their support dept. on how to 'put out fires' for as long as possible. Of course all of this is my opinion but I have to go now...hopfully was enough for everyone to chew on ;) Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Brad Larson wrote: >Jon, LOL. Our engineers don't watch these threads and they probably >never will and I wouldn't want them to. It's funny that this thread was >started by a very happy Alvarion customer whom just broke the 1,000 cpe >threshold with VL and he's doing the very things that aren't supposed to >be possible according to some posting on this topic!! And the funny part >of it is, VL displaced one of the products mentioned...performance went >up, truck rolls went down, and he sleeps better at night!! This thread >reminds me of a competitor slinging mud 2 years ago saying we couldn't >build a 3 tower network in 5 square miles to connect 2,400 >buildings...........Blah blah sync sync... LOL. We not only built that >network but it's a prime example of how if you "KNOW WHAT YOU"RE DOING" >and are "TRAINED AND CERTIFIED" the product works like a charm. > >And if a wisp is building a scaling voip/data network canopy is not such >a great solution so the hassle is in the details. Brad > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(190). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************ ************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(43). ************************************************************************ ************ ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
