There is some important info missing here.
How many are actually running. What do they cost? How much do they
generate/save?
How many are under construction?
How many are still in the planning stages?
Calling the planning stage deployments, deployments seems less than genuine
to me. I'm always told that my potential customer base counts for very
little, it's only my actual customers that matter. At least to the bankers
:-).
Jeff just said that he saw something like 200 ap's from ONE building the
other day. Were any of those commercial providers? Why, one must ask, is
the city (I'm assuming it was a city) putting a network into the area?
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From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Brad,
Here is a link you might want to read up on.
http://muniwireless.com/municipal/1556
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Brad Belton wrote:
I'll agree with Mark on this. There are many that are exploiting city
counsel's across the country to only line their own pockets. I have read
about one muni-wifi failure after another...point me to a real success
story. As a percentage my guess is the failures far, far outweigh the
successes.
If a city wants to drive business and people to their community then how
about offering free water or free garbage pickup instead of free Internet.
How about offering lower taxes?
Let the city offer something free to drive people into the community that
EVERYONE can benefit from. After all the Internet is only for the 'rich',
right? <grin>
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
Mark,
Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be
discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are describing.
The term "Digital Inclusion" is used in this document to describe the goal
of expanding the capabilities of computing technology worldwide to better
serve social and economic challenges of underserved communities, both
rural and urban.
If you would get off your own train and look around and maybe read a thing
or two on this subject maybe you would understand this a little better.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
There are numerous studies that demonstrate that towns that lack
broadband are economically deficient compared to towns with broadband.
Job growth, tax base increase, home value stability, higher per capita
income.
The economic deficiency drives the lack of broadband, not the other way
around.
You can't raise the dog to life by wagging it's tail.
I live in one of those towns, and have many of them in the region
surrounding me. Broadband is not the issue. The economic conditions
are
driven ENTIRELY by other factors. Just like poor roads don't help, a
lack
of connectivity may be some hindrance, but building a superhighway to a
depressed community will simply NOT create magic. Broadband brought to
these places may have some neglible impact, but the lack is not the
cause
of economic problems, nor will provisioning it "fix" things.
Unfortunately, too many people are riding this train. Politicians are
holding it out as a "fix" ( BB access has never hurt a town's economy, of
course) for things when it isn't, and lots of businessmen are exploiting
that for thier own pocketbooks. The people who are being sold this are
the
unwitting victims. They need real solutions to other real problems, and
ignoring them and offering fashionable modern services as a fix is a red
herring...
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Washington
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