Your Moto bias will cost you.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of finkle dinkle
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp

Yea, I will want to specialize only in businesses truthfully, when I
say that I will support residential, they're going to pay business
rates and I will hand pick the people if they call me..  I dont want
headaches

Unfortunately I do not knowingly buy Motorola brand products for
personal reasons.

I do want to stick to ubnt brand products but I dont know exactly how
many NanoBridge M5's I could connect to a single one, so I dont want
to have to end up with the entire roof covered with antenna's.

The 50mbit I could offer internally with ethernet or vdsl would be
great if it was symmetrical (vdsl), I want to be able to do this, just
trying to figure out how much I'd sell 50/50.

Thanks

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jerry Richardson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thought BPL was dead
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>
> Or BPL.
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs to
>> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the customer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-
>> micro.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building.  That
>>> would be
>>> the logical route to go I think.
>>>
>>> -Richard
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>>
>>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion.  I've been looking around and will
>>> continue to.
>>>
>>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, then
>>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set up
>>> with ethernet or fiber to my office.
>>>
>>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover half
>>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company here
>>> with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they deserve.
>>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a great
>>> benefit to the tenants.
>>>
>>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to
>>> actually break even and profit some,  I actually know I could profit
>>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are unable
>>> to get anything decent out here.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>    Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name.
>>>> I even
>>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums.
>>>  Anyhow,
>>>> welcome.  I would suggest reading through the archives for some good
>>>> discussions on things.
>>>>
>>>>    Justin
>>>> --
>>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>>> Wisp Consulting  Tower Climbing  Network Support
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Jack Unger <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700
>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>>>
>>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from
>>>> Finkle
>>>> Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business-like. I'd
>>>> recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones".
>>>>
>>>> finkle dinkle wrote:
>>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of neighbors
>>>>> with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to bring in a
>>>>> gig
>>>>> PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a salesman, I think
>>>>> with the bandwidth I have available at the DC + the of the PTP, I
>>>>> could've made everyone in the building happy, at least 20 tenants
>>>>> if I
>>>>> could convince them.. doubt I could.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in the
>>>>> building but through wireless), are there devices that dont have to
>>>>> rely on LOS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how many
>>>>> devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50
>>>>> clients
>>>>> externally with the devices and which devices..
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price,
>>>>> undercut
>>>>> wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to be the
>>>>> point
>>>>> guy for other tech operations for these potential clients..
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not..
>>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you actually
>>>>> charge (not including administrative) but lets assume your bandwidth
>>>>> costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the datacenter +
>>>>> 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what are we looking at
>>>>> here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, less the equipment
>>>>> to my
>>>>> office building at 8 bux a meg, how much should I be selling it ?
>>>>> any
>>>>> recommendations ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs
>>>>> for
>>>>> 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is my
>>>>> model
>>>>> right or wrong ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>>>> Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing
>>>> Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities
>>>> since
>>>> 1993
>>>> www.ask-wi.com  818-227-4220  [email protected]
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