Well, I'm not saying I want a single AP, just trying to determine
which route with UBNT products would support the most per client

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing... I want to be business class and go the 
> cheap-o route.  By a Yugo, get Yugo quality...especially if you think 50 
> business customers on a single ap is going to work well in an urban area with 
> UBNT.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> [email protected]
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:12 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>
> Your Moto bias will cost you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of finkle dinkle
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>
> Yea, I will want to specialize only in businesses truthfully, when I say that 
> I will support residential, they're going to pay business rates and I will 
> hand pick the people if they call me..  I dont want headaches
>
> Unfortunately I do not knowingly buy Motorola brand products for personal 
> reasons.
>
> I do want to stick to ubnt brand products but I dont know exactly how many 
> NanoBridge M5's I could connect to a single one, so I dont want to have to 
> end up with the entire roof covered with antenna's.
>
> The 50mbit I could offer internally with ethernet or vdsl would be great if 
> it was symmetrical (vdsl), I want to be able to do this, just trying to 
> figure out how much I'd sell 50/50.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jerry Richardson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Thought BPL was dead
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>
>> Or BPL.
>>
>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs to
>>> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the customer.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-
>>> micro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building.  That
>>>> would be the logical route to go I think.
>>>>
>>>> -Richard
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>>>
>>>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion.  I've been looking around and
>>>> will continue to.
>>>>
>>>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, then
>>>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set
>>>> up with ethernet or fiber to my office.
>>>>
>>>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover half
>>>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company
>>>> here with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they deserve.
>>>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a
>>>> great benefit to the tenants.
>>>>
>>>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to
>>>> actually break even and profit some,  I actually know I could profit
>>>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are unable
>>>> to get anything decent out here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>    Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name.
>>>>> I even
>>>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums.
>>>>  Anyhow,
>>>>> welcome.  I would suggest reading through the archives for some
>>>>> good discussions on things.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Justin
>>>>> --
>>>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog
>>>>> Wisp Consulting  Tower Climbing  Network Support
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>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jack Unger <[email protected]>
>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700
>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp
>>>>>
>>>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from
>>>>> Finkle Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business-like.
>>>>> I'd recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones".
>>>>>
>>>>> finkle dinkle wrote:
>>>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of
>>>>>> neighbors with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to
>>>>>> bring in a gig PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a
>>>>>> salesman, I think with the bandwidth I have available at the DC +
>>>>>> the of the PTP, I could've made everyone in the building happy, at
>>>>>> least 20 tenants if I could convince them.. doubt I could.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in
>>>>>> the building but through wireless), are there devices that dont
>>>>>> have to rely on LOS ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how
>>>>>> many devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50
>>>>>> clients externally with the devices and which devices..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price,
>>>>>> undercut wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to
>>>>>> be the point guy for other tech operations for these potential
>>>>>> clients..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not..
>>>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you
>>>>>> actually charge (not including administrative) but lets assume
>>>>>> your bandwidth costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the
>>>>>> datacenter + 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what
>>>>>> are we looking at here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth,
>>>>>> less the equipment to my office building at 8 bux a meg, how much
>>>>>> should I be selling it ?
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> recommendations ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs
>>>>>> for 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is
>>>>>> my model right or wrong ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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