and why do you want to restrict that on Alternates? why not the last
thermal? why not your teammate via Flarm or teamcode? why not your
home airport? I think if we do this we should do it right and make it
flexible to account for these things too. But as I said, I have no
idea yet how...

Maybe when you click on the "Next Waypoint" infobox a dialog could
open that let's you choose your target or something like that. Time
for brain storming :)

Turbo


2013/1/14 Henrik Bieler <henrik.bie...@gmx.de>:
> Hey all !
>
> I support Horts request to enhance Alternates' capability.
>
> Personally I would not need a whole new concept (like Task, Airport,
> Waypoint Screens).
> For me I would be very happy if I could select Alternate1 and 2 myself
> (from Waypointlist, Map, etc as mentioned)
> and have the basic infoboxes available for them (Distance, Heading to /
> Bearing from, Arrival Alt, GR required)
>
> Most of the time I want to keep navigating on task but still keep an eye
> on one or two specific alternates.
> The behaviour as it is now (automatic selection) could be default until
> the pilot explicitly selects an alternate.
>
> Greets Henrik
>
> PS: One could nicely use this for ATC Position reports as well. Just
> need an Alternate1-DistanceInNm-BearingFrom Infobox.
>
>
>
>
> Am 14.01.2013 23:33, schrieb Horst Rupp:
>> Hi Turbo,
>>
>> I am perfectly willing to dive into this - once I am past fledgling status
>> on XCSoar programming. Can't wait to see you in Sobernheim.
>> In order to prepare a concept , please tell what you need more or in what
>> form - apart from the text in ticket #2039 or
>> <http://forum.xcsoar.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=578>. What is a concept for you
>> ? I have written a <use case> (in terms of IT requirement management).
>>
>> Keep me posted, Turbo.
>>
>> Robert, do these writing sound reasonable for you ?
>>
>> Cheers Horst
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Tobias Bieniek [mailto:tobias.bien...@gmx.de]
>> Gesendet: Montag, 14. Januar 2013 22:48
>> An: Horst Rupp
>> Cc: xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net; Robert Hart
>> Betreff: Re: An alternate turn point while running a task?
>>
>> I've thought about this a bit in the last days, and I have to say that I'm
>> starting to get it. I've used the LX5000 a lot in the past and my glider now
>> has a DX50, which is the predecessor. In those devices you have an airport-,
>> a waypoint- and task-screen and for each you can define a different target.
>> At some point I realized that this is pretty much what LK8000 is also doing
>> with their MultiTarget system. I have to admit that this isn't quite as easy
>> in XCSoar yet, but I certainly see the benefits of something like that...
>>
>> I'd be glad if somebody would come up with a proper concept on how to do
>> this in XCSoar. I would very much prefer simple sketches over reading
>> several pages of text BTW ;)
>>
>> Turbo
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/14 Horst Rupp <ho...@rupp-family.de>:
>>> Hi Turbo, Robert,
>>>
>>> I strongly support this idea. Please also see ticket # 2039, which
>>> formulates an even wider demand and encompasses the requirements
>>> sketched by Robert.
>>> I was reprimanded :-) that the ticket list is no forum for such wide
>>> discussions. So, I am looking forward to have that issue alive on this
>>> channel.
>>> The current concept of how XCSoar deals with alternates is of only
>>> very limited use and should be developed into more useful feature.
>>>
>>> Horst Rupp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 09:14:10 +0100
>>>> From: Tobias Bieniek <tobias.bien...@gmx.de>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Xcsoar-user] An alternate turn point while running a
>>>>          task?
>>>> To: Robert Hart <ha...@interweft.com.au>
>>>> Cc: XCSoar Users <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>>>> <cabeoetnk7oltfmbxzm-g+bedpqglprepqbzbup_lubdeyca...@mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>
>>>> You can always "GoTo" another waypoint and once you don't need that
>>>> anymore you can "Resume Task" from the Nav menu. I guess though what
>>>> you want is something more like what the LX devices do with their
>>>> separate Airport, Waypoint and Task modes, right?
>>>>
>>>> Turbo
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/8 Robert Hart <ha...@interweft.com.au>:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I was discussing this with a few pilots here at the multi-class comps.
>>>>> The idea is that it would be useful in some circumstances to have
>>>>> XCSoar be able to provide information to some non task turn point
>>>>> without having to abort the task to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> This would be particularly useful when having to cross unlandable
>>>>> terrain as XCSoar could provide information on a point behind you
>>>>> (perhaps a dropped point on a landable paddock) whilst continuing on
>>>>> task. I used to do this with my old Cambridge Nav system.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do others think of this idea?
>>>>>
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