Hi Claus,
I have created a ticket (http://bugs.xcsoar.org/ticket/2730) with some figures
attached, because my explanation is not good. English is not my first
language....
The colors is not the most important, but the information in the small text.
In- and out-start are paragliding and hanggliding rules, and for us, is very
important to know if you enter or exit in the start radius in the right time.
For example, in hanggliding competitions, if you exit start radius before start
time your flight/task is not validated. You need to exit radius only after
start time. If you are out of radius in the start time, you need to entry and
exit again to start the task...
And today, the "Start open/close" infobox, when the pilot cross start
line/radius the countdown clock disappears, and the infobox has no purpose
anymore. So, if you cross the line before the start time, you don't know if you
are right.
Today, in the SIM mode the time you have to use is GMT. But It should be local
time in my opinion.
See the ticket, maybe the pictures are better then my words.
Best reagards,
Henrique Frasson
www.fcvles.com.br
asadeltacapixaba.blogspot.com
________________________________
De: ""Claus-W. Häbel"" <c...@online.de>
Para: Henrique Frasson <hfras...@yahoo.com.br>
Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 29 de Março de 2013 10:04
Assunto: Re: [Xcsoar-user] Start open/close infobox and task rules
I haven't tested it live due to snow and cold weather.
But in 4 weeks, a competiton will start, where I have to test it
live.
For me it works well - testing it in simu-mode.
I don't miss anything. A simple clock changing in color like a
traffic light.
Easy to understandand usefull.
But OK, I'll write a tip into the manual regarding the time - it's
lokal time, I gues ?
Regs, claus
Am 28.03.2013 18:03, schrieb Henrique Frasson:
Dear all,
>
>
>Some one have tried "Start open/close" infobox?
>
>
>I have tried only in SIM mode. There is some aspects and suggestions below, so
>let me know if is better open a bug report (wishlist). Or, if there is already
>a ticket, please indicate the number so I can add some wishes.
>
>
>
>
>ASPECTS AND SUGGESTIONS
>
>
>Aspect 1. It seems that when you put task start time, it have to be in GMT
>time and not in local time.
>Sugestion 1: This may confuse some people, so it was interesting to have a tip
>like ("Start Time GMT: ___:___"), or change to use local time.
>
>
>Aspect 2. There isn't a rule to in/out start.
what is an -in- and what an -out- start???
Sugestion 2: would be interesting to choose START IN (exit) or START OUT
(entry).
>
>
>Aspect 3. When the pilot exit the start radius the countdown disappear, and
>the pilot don't know if he/she exit/enter the radius before or after start
>time.
>
>
>Suggestion 3: Add some information in the infobox:
>
>
>START IN (exit) - Pilot need to exit the radius to start the task
>Situation 1 - Pilot inside start radius and missing time to start time -
>Infobox big text blue with positive values - infobox small text: wait time!
>Situation 2 - Pilot inside start radius and time already start -Infobox big
>text green with negative values - Infobox small text: start opened!
>Situation 3 - Pilot outside start radius and missing time to start time -
>Infobox big text magenta with positive values - Infobox small text: need entry!
>Situation 4 - Pilot outside start radius and time already start -Infobox big
>text red and negative values - Infobox small text: need exit!
>Situation 5 - Pilot exit the start radius in right time - Infobox big text
>black whith negative values - Infobox small text: Elapsed Time
>
>
Oh, my dear - I think, that will lead to confusion with all those colors, won't
it?
It only belongs to some special start procedures not known by me
-and i guess others, too-
so I wouldn't code it as standard.
Maybe coupled with the task type(AAT German, AAT GB, AAt DK, AAt US,
racing GB, Racing India ...)
to avoid all that firework of colors?? Who will remeber all that?
btw.:
WHO is creating such complicated start procedures ... ummpf ...
START OUT (entry) - Pilot need to enter the radius to start the task
>Situation 1 - Pilot outside start radius and missing time to start time -
>Infobox text blue with positive values - infobox small text: wait time!
>Situation 2 - Pilot outside start radius and time already start - Infobox text
>green with negative values - Infobox small text: start opened!
>Situation 3 - Pilot inside start radius and missing time to start time -
>Infobox text magenta with positive values - Infobox small text: need exit!
>Situation 4 - Pilot outside start radius and time already start - Infobox text
>red and negative values - Infobox small text: need entry!
>Situation 5 - Pilot enter the start radius in right time - Infobox big text
>black whith negative values - Infobox small text: Elapsed Time
>
>
>
>When pilot exit/entry start radius in wrong time: bad noise and overlay map
>message: Wrong Exit/Entry!
>When pilot exit/entry start radius in right time: good noise and overlay map
>message: Task Started!
>When start time occurs and pilot: attention noise and overlay map message:
>Start Opened!
>
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Henrique Frasson
>
>www.fcvles.com.br
>asadeltacapixaba.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>________________________________
> De: Henrique Frasson <hfras...@yahoo.com.br>
>Para: Tobias Bieniek <tobias.bien...@gmx.de>;
>"xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <xcsoar-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>Enviadas: Terça-feira, 15 de Janeiro de 2013 16:45
>Assunto: Re: [Xcsoar-user] task start time, help
>
>
>Thank you Tobias. Let's wait 6.5. I will give a try to the preview version.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Henrique Frasson
>
>asadeltacapixaba.blogspot.com
>xcapixaba2012.blogspot.com
>Tel.: +55 27 8161-7085
>
>
>
>________________________________
> De: Tobias Bieniek <tobias.bien...@gmx.de>
>Para: Henrique Frasson <hfras...@yahoo.com.br>
>Enviadas: Terça-feira, 15 de Janeiro de 2013 15:04
>Assunto: Re: [Xcsoar-user] task start time, help
>
>
>Hi Hendrique, the upcoming XCSoar 6.5 will have basic support for task start
>times. I haven't tried it myself yet though. There is a preview version on the
>market if you want to have a look.
>Turbo
>Am 15.01.2013 15:05 schrieb "Henrique Frasson" <hfras...@yahoo.com.br>:
>
>Dear all,
>>
>>
>>I am hang gliding pilot and XCsoar new user. May someone help me?
>>How to configure task start time? Is it possible?
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Henrique Frasson
>>
>>asadeltacapixaba.blogspot.com
>>xcapixaba2012.blogspot.com
>>Tel.: +55 27 8161-7085
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