Well it sure seems to me that some kind of disconnect happened between what the Buddha taught, and the teaching of an "Inner Self."
I'd certainly like to hear what anyone thinks after reading this sutta: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.09.0.than.html "I teach the Dhamma for the abandoning of the gross acquisition of a self.. I also teach the Dhamma for the abandoning of the mind-made acquisition of a self... I also teach the Dhamma for the abandoning of the formless acquisition of a self" Ian > > Good morning Bill and Cathy, > > If we detach from the "perceived general definitions of Zen", couldn't five or six or fifty one be just menifestations and messages of Zen at that moment of witness relative to that moment only, which is impermanant and transient, which may be received only by our consiousness and not to our Inner Self? > > The witness of the moment is important to calm our mind, train ourselves to be, as you stated, "no self", "no mind". What is after that? Or is there? > > Is there a disconnect in the teachings after 2500 years? Is there one true which is also all? Or is it important? > > With palms together, > JMJM > > Bill Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday, June 20 kahtychen wrote: > > [Kahty...]Zen is five ... and six, ... and sometimes even fifty one. > Yesterday > when I was doing dishes, zen was fourteen. > > Beautiful! Crisp! To-the-point. No clouds. No fog. No smoke and > mirrors. > > Thank you...Bill! > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1ยข/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
