--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "rbs000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "jasonzavoda" <jasonzavoda@> wrote:
> >
> > What Hindrances? There is nothing to abandon.
> 
> There is something to abandon.  Self-grasping.
> 
> "Zen rap" says "what self?"
> 
> Whatever self is still clung to.
> 
> "Zen rap" says, "Oh ho, but there is no self to cling to!"
> 
> Excellent!  Then why are you still clinging to it?  :-)
> 
> But then "Zen rap" says, "so Ian, why are you still clinging to it?"
> 
> lol "Zen rap" wins.
> 
> Ian
> 

"Zen rap" has one more thing to say, take it away, Zennie:

"Abandon grasping at no-self, also.  Clean the dishes, take a walk,
mow the lawn, read a book."

Thank you.

Ian






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