Al,  My comments and replies are embedded below:

--- In, "Fitness63" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Bill Smart> JUST THIS!, or THIS!. That way I don't have to 
deal with 
> the dualities of direct/non-direct, or explain what 'experience' 
means, or 
> the duality of reality/illusion. >
> What about everything else that is ZEN? That is what JM is 
referring to, 
> that you just want a mental exercise for "experiencing reality 
> without conscience, without responsibility, without obligations, 
what is 

> Just the meat and none of the bone? All the good parts without the 
> responsibility for the rest of the world? You cannot have Dharma 
> Karma and that entails a bigger picture than JUST THIS.
There is nothing else that is zen besides THIS!  There is no THAT!  
All THAT (conscience, responsibility, obligations, meat, bone, good 
parts, Dharma, karma, bigger picture, etc...) are prodcuts of your 
self and are illusary.

Just THIS!



Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

Reply via email to