JMJM,

>From my training I believe 'satori' is a Japanese term meaning 'sudden 
breakthrough' or 'initial breakthrough'.

To address your questions directly, my understanding of satori is that 
it is sudden and it is not permanent.

Japanese Zen Buddhism teaches growing degrees of enlightenment that 
starts with 'satori' and ends with 'full enlightenment'.

If you refer to the Ox Herding Pictures, and in my opinion:
- pictures 1 and 2 depict becoming interested in and starting to pursue 
enlightenment.
- picture 3: First Glimpse - would problably be 'satori'
- the rest of the pictures depict an integration of enlightenment into 
your everyday life.

What's everyone else's idea of 'satori'?

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi guys, What is satori?  Is it sudden or gradual?  Is it permanent 
or 
> on and off?   If you have any Buddhist term to refer to, it would 
help.  
> Much obliged, JM
>



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