Zen is to be Free from Want! Who is willing to die, where ever they 
are? If you truly experience your being, at one with the NOW, 
your "Heaven" is here. You can't worry about what will happen after 
you die, because who REALLY knows?  

Later,
Chris

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As we all get older, and some of us are a lot older, the question 
for 
> me now is this: Does Zen give you everything you want? Are you 
willing 
> to die sitting on a cushion just saying "this is it?" No Heaven for 
> you? No Nirvana? No nothing? Just worms??
>



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