Dear both,
Are good people always good? What makes them good? Their genes? Or their karma, 
if you still believe it?

--- On Sun, 5/10/08, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Aging and Zen
Date: Sunday, 5 October, 2008, 5:39 PM


That's why they say to read the Bilble to find out what people were doing wring 
back then, and that applies equally well to believers today. It's the good 
people that don't need god or religion in the first place to try to keep them 
from doing bad.


On Oct 4, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Jody W. Ianuzzi wrote:

Hello Bob,

I always find it ironic when I hear that the only reason why people have 
morals is because of a fear of God.

I remember when my nephew was traveling around Europe. He left his bag on 
the floor next to him at the airport in Israel for 5 minutes and it was 
gone. Israel is the home of the three mono theistic religions in the 

Compare this to when you could leave a briefcase on a train platform in 
Japan and find it there the next day. Most Japanese are Buddhist, tao or 

So where does God enter into the picture of ethics?



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