Bill

"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see 
clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye"
So when the plank is out of your eye Jesus was saying DO nothing? He said Do 
the things that I did, not sit around and let the world suffer, because the 
world isn't really suffering.  Jesus expressed valuations; he did not teach do 
nothing and your fellow man will be helped merely because you have removed your 
own plank.  

Joe


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
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> Anthony,
> 
>  
> 
> As I’ve said before, the kindly uniformed Bodhisattvas who tend to our 
> every need during our air travel remind us of this just before we take off:
> 
>  
> 
> ‘Please remember to put on your own oxygen mask first before attempting to 
> help others’.
> 
>  
> 
> Also Jesus, who was not an official flight attendant but did attempt to guide 
> his flock so they could ascend to Heaven, is quoted as saying: 
> 
>                 “5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, 
> and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.” 
> The Holy Bible, Matthew 7:5
> 
> …Bill!
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>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Anthony Wu
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:57 AM
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion
> 
>  
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> ED,
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>  
> 
> I am asking and also telling everybody what I read about the confusing 
> Mahayanist literature.
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>  
> 
> Anthony
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> --- On Sat, 31/7/10, ED <seacrofter...@...> wrote:
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> 
> From: ED <seacrofter...@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Compassion
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 31 July, 2010, 8:58 PM
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Anthony,
> 
> Are you asking us or are you telling us?
> 
> --ED
> 
>  
> 
> --- In zen_fo...@yahoogrou ps.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > ED,
> >  
> > In my understanding (if found incorrect, please point out), Buddha says you 
> > must first work out your own salvation, then you save others. But the later 
> > Mahayanist says that the ideal bodhisatva helps others first, before saving 
> > themselves. Can you really help others when facing many problems of your 
> > own?
> >
> > Anthony
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