Okay, how about '...eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake when you're rested and build a boat when you're asked.'?
...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "maitreya003" <joult...@...> wrote: > > Bill > > Just keep sitting, and eat when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake > when you're rested and deal with whatever comes up in a spontaneous manner > without any goals or valutions in mind." > > And if someone asks you to design and build a boat, can you just sit and not > set any goals and valuations, or must you put thought into the design and > effort into the build, even though it's an illusion? > > Apparently you place valuation on sitting, eating when hungry and sleeping > when tired, etc, Because that is the way, the only way to you. A set of > illusory standards within the illusion. > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > Â > > Your argument is not without reason. The point is your encouragement for > > the 'spontaneity', which will give plenty of excuses for bad guys. > > Â > > Anthony > > > > --- On Sun, 25/7/10, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Compassion > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Sunday, 25 July, 2010, 10:38 AM > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > Anthony, > > > > I disagree. They have a motive for both: > > > > They sell drugs to obtain money and power. > > > > They take drugs because they do not like, or are not satisfied with, or do > > not want to accept who they are. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > > > Bill, > > > ÃÂ > > > Go to Mexico, and be welcome by the drug kings on the highlighted words. > > > ÃÂ > > > In their minds, selling and taking drugs are 'spontaneous'. > > > ÃÂ > > > Anthony > > > > > > --- On Sat, 24/7/10, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Compassion > > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 5:18 PM > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed, Thats a good question. > > > > > > Merriam-Webster Online defines 'compassion' as: > > > > > > "A sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire > > > to alleviate it." > > > > > > I don't know how to resolve this from a zen perspective since the > > > concepts of 'others', 'distress', 'desire' and even to some exten > > > 'alleviate' are illusory. > > > > > > I think 'compassion' is just one of those Buddhist teaching devices, like > > > karma, to help you decide what to do before you are ready to decide that > > > for yourself. > > > > > > I wouldn't worry too much about compassion. Just keep sitting, and eat > > > when you're hungry, sleep when you're tired, wake when you're rested and > > > deal with whatever comes up in a spontaneous manner without any goals or > > > valutions in mind. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is "compassion"? > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Acompassion&aq=f&\ > > > > aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai > > > > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=define%3Acompassion&aq=f\ > > > > &aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai> = > > > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
