Bill:
 
Tibet is a Country.  China's invasion into Tibet and making from it a province 
are just politics.  The Vasque Country as the name itself says is a Country.  
Part of the Vasque Country is in France and part is in Spain.  If you would be 
going to the Vasque Country you will be seeing that is very different from 
Spain in all the ways. As a contrast , I was borne in the Vasque Country and I 
believe anyone has ever heard say that I wasn't from Spain.  I like Spain due 
to its rich cultural and paesage variety.  And I also like a united Spain with 
the Vasque Country included rather than separated.  Nonetheless the only place 
in the Iberic peninsula called Country is the Vasque Country and that is 
because is a Country split up between France and Spain.
 
Mayka
 

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From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Other traditions
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 11 September, 2010, 3:49


  





Makya,
 
I appreciate your observations.
 
One correction:  Tibet is not a country.  It’s a province of China.  Much like 
the Basque region of Spain is a province of Spain – even though some of them 
don’t want to be.
 
…Bill!
 



From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maria Lopez
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:55 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Other traditions
 
  








Yes, that was my impression too about tibetans being superstitious.  The TNH 
sangha in Edinburgh main leader was an ex tibetan nun full of that kind of 
superstitious tibetan stuff.  And her ego would resent if someone would point 
it out to her.  Nonetheless, I quite like the human warm and great sense of 
humour some original tibetans have.  This last July I met a Lama and he would 
explain the most ordinary daily things in such a simplicity, humour, 
spontaneous and natural way that he managed to transmit the dharma in a most 
skillful way.  I believe that in spite of cultiural superstition there are some 
very amazing profoundly awakened wise tibetans as well as in the other way 
round. In fact they are a whole country and not just an spare  sect kind of 
Thich Nhat Hanh propagation but a whole country. 

 

Mayka

 


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From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Other traditions
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 14:47

  



DP,
 
I myself don’t consider Tibetan ‘Buddhism’ actually Buddhist.  I should more 
rightfully be classified as ‘Lamaism’ – with maybe some Buddhist terminology.  
It’s chock full of superstitions, gods and spirits and a lot of mysticism (and 
not just ‘chi’), the most well known of which is their belief that the Dalai 
Lama which is their ‘God-King’, and whom they believe is a reincarnation of the 
former Dalai Lama clear back to an actual ‘god’ (of Compassion).
 
And don’t get me started on the Dalai Lama…Bill! 
  



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DP
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 8:49 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zen] Other traditions
  
  




I have a strange feeling towards other Buddhist traditions. While I find 
interesting messages in reading about Christianity or even Islam and Judaism 
(Hinduism I find too alien, although I love some of the imagery and mythology), 
I have a sort of block against other Buddhist traditions. I can admire somone 
like the The Dalai Lama, but I find Tibetan Buddhism too esoteric. I have had a 
few negative experiences on chat boards with other Buddhists in Theravada and 
Vajranaya traditions, where they even denigrated Zen. Does anyone else find 
that other Buddhist traditions seem odder to them than traditions outside 
Buddhism?


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