Edgar,

I stand corrected.  Good to hear from you...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote:
>
> Correction Bill - those are my words, not Al's. You should know that as we 
> discussed it when I wrote them and updated the Home Page.....
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:00 AM, <billsm...@...> <billsm...@...> wrote:
> 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > To the best of my knowledge the Yahoo! Zen Forum was established by Albert
> > Batista in 2002. Al does not participate often now, but has entrusted the
> > Moderator's role of the forum to Edgar Owen (who also doesn't now
> > participate very often) and me. As part of the Zen Forum Home Page
> > description of the forum Al wrote:
> > 
> > "We believe that true Zen is a realization and way of life which may be
> > found and practiced anywhere and is not confined within the gates of any
> > particular temple or sutra. While many of our members have studied Zen
> > formally we are not constrained by any particular teaching and seek to cut
> > directly through to reality wherever we may find ourselves.
> > 
> > Thus you will find this group a fun and freewheeling group that brings many
> > interesting and diverse perspectives to a serious and sometimes passionate
> > discussion of Zen. We welcome all new members at whatever level with an
> > interest in Zen and enlightenment to participate. On this group we are all
> > students, and all teachers!"
> > 
> > That is as an official answer as I can give you.
> > 
> > Of course each participant may have different reasons for participating in
> > this forum, and would therefore have different opinions on what the zen
> > forum `was about'.
> > 
> > For me the Zen Forum is an e-sangha, somewhere I can go to discuss zen and
> > other related subjects with others.
> > 
> > What do you think the Zen Forum is `about'?
> > 
> > …Bill!
> > 
> > From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of ED
> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:43 AM
> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen and the Brain
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > What's the Zen Forum about?
> > 
> > Thanks, ED
> > 
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > >
> > Ed,
> > 
> > The one constant theme that runs through your comments below is that
> > `prior
> > to kensho (glimpsing Buddha Nature) it is okay to engage in intellectual
> > activities that you think help you understand zen'.
> > 
> > Zen is not something you can understand. You can form concepts and
> > opinions
> > about zen, but they are not zen. Any attempt to understand zen at best
> > will be unhelpful, and at worst will be misleading and detrimental.
> > 
> > A few posts ago I posted comments that I labeled as `logical'
> > and
> > `alogical'. The `alogical' comment was actually not
> > presented alogically.
> > It was a logical presentation of the concept of something alogical.
> > Since
> > it's relevant here, and since I'd also like to correct that
> > error on my
> > part, I now present an alogical response to your comments post below. It
> > can also be directed at Mike's recent comments on the same subject. It
> > is a
> > paraphrasing of a story of an excellent alogical response given by an
> > historical zen master:
> > 
> > Ed approached Joshu in all earnestness, "I want to practice zen.
> > I've read
> > many books on zen, meditation and consciousness. I keep up-to-date on
> > all
> > the latest discoveries in the realm of physiology and psychology that
> > relates to zen. Please give me instructions."
> > 
> > Joshu asked, "Have you eaten your lunch yet?"
> > 
> > Ed replied, "Yes I have. I just got up from the table, and I know
> > from my
> > studies that when I eat my body redirects a large portion of my blood to
> > my
> > digestive system and that results in decreased ability to concentrate,
> > so I
> > probably shouldn't sit zazen right now. What do you recommend?"
> > 
> > Joshu replied, "Wash your dishes."
> > 
> > …adapted from JOSHU'S"WASH YOUR BOWLS", Case 7 – THE
> > GATELESS GATE
> > 
> > …Bill!
> > 
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