Hi, Mayka Thanks for welcome
Lluís is my real name, and yes, I am from Catalunya With best wishes Lluís ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Lopez To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Hello Lluis: Welcome to the zen forum. is Lluis your real name or it's a nickname you have adopted to participate in this forum. Are you from Catalunya?. Mayka --- On Tue, 2/11/10, Lluís Mendieta <lme...@intermail.es> wrote: From: Lluís Mendieta <lme...@intermail.es> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 November, 2010, 21:24 Good evening to all Just a new member, that feels buddhist, albeit in Mahayana or Tantrayana, not exactly Zen In Buddhism, as I understand, nothing is "ones personal". All is for all sentient beings. Compassion is not a badge. Is what we should feel, as we need as a whole We all should reach nirvana. And no one will be free when still any sentient being has not reached nirvana. Or so I have understood. And I know that is hard, specially for me that I am not native english speaker, to verbalize such concepts Boddhishatva will explain... Anyway, my best wihes to all and my special wishes to the moderator who invited me (sorry, still tied to mundane things) And,as I learned in other forum, peace With best wishes Lluís ----- Original Message ----- From: ED To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas Bill wrote: > [Bill!] I understand 'compassion' to mean 'to be aware of the feelings of > others'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as "sympathetic consciousness of > others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it". That definition > satisfies me. Bill, Bill, Bill, The definition is consonant with ones I have seen in Buddhist texts. However, questions come to mind (as usual): o Is possessing 'compassion' a badge of merit, or is it a normal and natural aspect of human nature? o Is not "sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it" none other than a stipulation that a person not possess genes for autism? o And when we do experience compassion, is it not usually selectively directed toward persons we feel connected to in some way? o For instance, do we feel compassion for the million-plus war-widows caused by the US/UK/Australian invasion of Iraq? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote: > > Ed, Ed, Ed… > > I posted a quote attributed to St. Thomas Aquinas: > > "I would rather feel compassion than know the meaning of it." > > You then asked: > > [Ed] Wherein do you perceive any intelligence or wisdom in St. > Augustine's preference? > [Bill!] I don't perceive any intelligence in St. Aquinas' statement above. > I do however perceive a lot of wisdom. I perceive the wisdom in his stated > preference for experience over knowledge. > > [Ed] What does St. Augustine mean by 'compassion'? > [Bill!] I don't know and I don't care. The meaning of compassion is not > important in the quote, in fact the quote itself says that. You can > substitute any word you want for 'compassion' in his quote and the wisdom > will still be there. > [Ed] What do you understand 'compassion' to be? > [Bill!] I understand 'compassion' to mean 'to be aware of the feelings of > others'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as "sympathetic consciousness of > others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it". That definition > satisfies me. > ...Bill!