Anthony,

Please look into your own mind and tell us what motivation (other than
curiosity) prompted you to ask that question.

--ED

PS: In Mahayana and Tantrayana Tibetan Buddhism, there is strong focus
on motivation.



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote:
>

ED,   Please find the most representative definitions of sex ritual. I
limit you to 3 of them. It is best if they shed light on the
relationship with lust and spiritualism.   I am curious why Tantrism
attaches so much significance to that.   Anthony


   Definitions of illusion on the Web:
    * an erroneous mental representation     * something many people
believe that is false; "they have the illusion that I am very wealthy"
* delusion: the act of deluding; deception by creating illusory ideas
* magic trick: an illusory feat; considered magical by naive observers
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%\
3Fs%3Dillusion&sa=X&ei=p8jSTOfvNYyasAPW4Om3Cw&ved=0CBgQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCN\
FRJNZpjADddoe9-Y-x-w1AaifpUQ>       * An illusion is a distortion of the
senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets
sensory stimulation. While illusions distort reality, they are generally
shared by most people. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion&sa=X&\
ei=p8jSTOfvNYyasAPW4Om3Cw&ved=0CBkQpAMoAQ&usg=AFQjCNELjukQr85fgzdt494Slx\
nEs888dg>


   Bill,   Thank you for clarification of the sense in which persons who
are enlightened experience reality.   However to the more than 99.9999%
of humans who do not experience satori, 'Maya' is very, very real.  
Therefore, I submit to the Zen Forum the proposition that the reality
experienced by the very, very few is not relevant to the world.   --ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
>
> Mayka,
>
> What I meant to say was that if you are living in a world of illusions
(maya) compassion is a badge of honor and something you need to
cultivate and practice.
>
> If you are not living in a world of illusions there is no compassion,
no honor, nothing to cultivate and nothing to practice. There is Just
THIS!
>
> ...Bill!

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