ED, You begin to sound Communist. Do I have to announce my 'motivation', when I ask you a question? Some years ago in China, you went to jail, or fared much worse, because they thought you harbored 'bourgeois motivation'. Anthony
--- On Fri, 5/11/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 10:09 AM Anthony, Please look into your own mind and tell us what motivation (other than curiosity) prompted you to ask that question. --ED PS: In Mahayana and Tantrayana Tibetan Buddhism, there is strong focus on motivation. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote: > ED, Please find the most representative definitions of sex ritual. I limit you to 3 of them. It is best if they shed light on the relationship with lust and spiritualism. I am curious why Tantrism attaches so much significance to that. Anthony Definitions of illusion on the Web: an erroneous mental representation something many people believe that is false; "they have the illusion that I am very wealthy" delusion: the act of deluding; deception by creating illusory ideas magic trick: an illusory feat; considered magical by naive observers wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation. While illusions distort reality, they are generally shared by most people. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion Bill, Thank you for clarification of the sense in which persons who are enlightened experience reality. However to the more than 99.9999% of humans who do not experience satori, 'Maya' is very, very real. Therefore, I submit to the Zen Forum the proposition that the reality experienced by the very, very few is not relevant to the world. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote: > > Mayka, > > What I meant to say was that if you are living in a world of illusions (maya) > compassion is a badge of honor and something you need to cultivate and > practice. > > If you are not living in a world of illusions there is no compassion, no > honor, nothing to cultivate and nothing to practice. There is Just THIS! > > ...Bill!