Got it. What you experience in an orgyhouse is reality. The rest are illusion.

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Subject: RE: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory
Date: Saturday, 6 November, 2010, 12:53 PM



Everything you think about is illusory. Illusions are illusory.
Interpretations are illusory. Doctrines are illusory. Philosophical
traditions are illusory.

Everything you experience is reality. Reality is not illusory.


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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: [Zen] Reality in Buddhism not necessarily illusory

Reality in Buddhism is not necessarily illusory, but it does have a diverse
set of contrasting interpretations. See below.
"Buddhism evolved a variety of doctrinal/philosophical traditions, each with
its own ideas of reality. 
"The Buddha promoted experience over theorizing. According to Karel Werner,
Experience is ... the path most elaborated in early Buddhism. The doctrine
on the other hand was kept low. The Buddha avoided doctrinal formulations
concerning the final reality as much as possible in order to prevent his
followers from resting content with minor achievements on the path in which
the absence of the final experience could be substituted by conceptual
understanding of the doctrine or by religious faith, a situation which
sometimes occurs, in both varieties, in the context of Hindu systems of
The Mahayana developed those statements he did make into an extensive,
diverse set of sometimes contrasting descriptions of reality "as it really
The Theravada school teaches that there is no universal personal god. The
world as we know it does not have its origin in a primordial being such as
Brahman or the Abrahamic God. What we see is only a product of transitory
factors of existence, which depend functionally upon each other. 
'The Buddha is said to have said: "The world exists because of causal
actions, all things are produced by causal actions and all beings are
governed and bound by causal actions. They are fixed like the rolling wheel
of a cart, fixed by the pin of its axle shaft." (Sutta-Nipata 654)[4]
The word 'illusion' is frequently associated with Buddhism and the nature of
Some interpretations of Buddhism teach that reality is a coin with two
sides: impermanence or anicca and the "not-self characteristic" or anatta,
referred to as "emptiness" in some Mahayana schools."
Above excerpts are from: :

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