Ed, My comments are embedded below:
[Ed] "You must understand that a perspective on life that is derived from an inner experience is different from one that is arrived at intellectually." --Kobori-Roshi (1918-1992) I've never heard of Kobori-Roshi before, which makes absolutely no difference - except I don't know if he spoke or wrote this quote in English or if it was translated. Kobori-Roshi is either very, very wrong or he has been misquoted. There is no such thing as an 'inner experience'. An experience is an experience. There is no outer or inner about it. Also, I don't know in what context he has made this quote, and especially why he commented about 'a perspective on life'. Zen practice does not give you a 'perspective on life'. Perspectives are thought, and thought is illusory. Zen practice gives you a pure, unadulterated, uncensored experience of life - not a perspective. [Ed] "Taste as much of this as you can. Swallow what you need and spit out the rest." -- Taizan Maezumi-Roshi (1931-1995) (To his disciples with regard to importing Japanese Zen Teachings into the West.) I studied under Maezumi Roshi for over 10 years. I agree with the above and have applied it to my zen practice, but don't see how it has any bearing on what we've been discussing. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], <billsm...@...> wrote: > > Ed, > > Everything you think about is illusory. Illusions are illusory. > Interpretations are illusory. Doctrines are illusory. Philosophical > traditions are illusory. > > Everything you experience is reality. Reality is not illusory. > > Bill! __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5597 (20101106) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5597 (20101106) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
