Dear Anthony

Thanks for info!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anthony Wu 
  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 12:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas


        Conversational Japanese is not that hard, but the written language will 
require life effort. Standard Tibetan is not tonal, but some of their dialects 
are. They are interesting, but not much use.


        --- On Mon, 15/11/10, Lluís Mendieta <> wrote:

          From: Lluís Mendieta <>
          Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
          Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 6:02 AM

          Hi, Anthony

          Being not too long ago in Japan, and speaking spanish (among others), 
I could say that japanese is not that hard for a spanish speaker: sounds are 
easy to recognize. Not being tonal is also a plus for us. Tones are hard to 
understand for anyone that have never heard those.
          Other would be writting...   :-(

          I have heard also tibetan, but in ceremonies, so, not sure if easy 
for me or not...

          With best wishes

          ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Anthony Wu 
            Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:55 PM
            Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas


                  North Chinese is missing in the tree. They constitute 
majority Chinese population, which have been influenced by Central Asian 
Conquerers that brought in genetic and language elements. So the language tend 
to be multisyllables. In contrast, South Chinese are monosyllables with 
complicated tonal systems, like Thai. 

                  It is a mistake to group together Tibetan, Korean and 
Japanese. The latter is probably more comfortable with Spanish than Tibetan.


                  --- On Mon, 15/11/10, ED <> wrote:

                    From: ED <>
                    Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
                    Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 12:24 AM


                    If one looks at the family tree of population groups based 
on genetic distance (in the first chart in, 
one notices that: S. Chinese, Mon Khmer, Thai, Indonesian, Malayians, Filipinos 
are closely related, belonging to the family: 'Mainland SE Asian'.
                    On the other hand The 'Indian qualities' of the Thai 
probably orginate from:
                    "The culture of Thailand incorporates cultural beliefs and 
characteristics indiginenous to the area known as modern day Thailand coupled 
with much influence from ancient India, China, Cambodia, along with the the 
neighbouring pre-historic cultures of Southeast Asia. It is influenced 
primarily by Animism, Hinduism, Buddhism, as well as by later migrations from 
China, and southern India.
                    Thailand is nearly 95% Theravada Buddhist, with minorities 
of Muslims (4.6%), Christians (0.7%), Mahayana Buddhists, and other religions. 
Thai Theravada Buddhism is supported and overseen by the government, with monks 
receiving a number of government benefits, such as free use of the public 
transportation infrastructure.

                    --- In, <billsm...@...> wrote:
                    > Anthony,
                    > Issan is indeed a Thai dialect. It's kind of a blend of 
Thai and Lao.
                    > It's obvious that Chinese is the major contributor to the 
Thai ethnic mix. Their culture, written language, traditional dress, etc..., 
seems to also have a lot of Indian qualities. 
                    > And physically I think the people that look the closest 
to Thais are Filipinos. In fact several times my wife was approached by 
Filipinos while we were waiting for a flight who thought she was Filipino also.
                    > ...Bill! 



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