I can't be there, so ask yer teacher. ;-)
When you experience it as empty, with no mind, then that is emptiness. Until
then, alas, it is an academic exercise, suitable for posting about on internet
fora.
--Joe
> ChrisAustinLane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> > Without the experience of Emptiness, it just is not Ch'an.
>
> What experience is not empty?
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