All experiences are empty.  any attempt to chop life into bits of Chan or
not Chan will hide this wholeness  of life.
On Jul 9, 2012 7:35 PM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't be there, so ask yer teacher.  ;-)
>
> When you experience it as empty, with no mind, then that is emptiness.
>  Until then, alas, it is an academic exercise, suitable for posting about
> on internet fora.
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> --Joe
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> > ChrisAustinLane <chris@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Without the experience of Emptiness, it just is not Ch'an.
> >
> > What experience is not empty?
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