Hi Joe,
Your post below seems to say awakening is distinct. Either this or
that? My question to you is, "Is awakening a sudden or gradual
process?" What is your experience?
Thanks,
jm
On 7/10/2012 7:54 AM, Joe wrote:
Well, certainly, especially after awakening.
But, after awakening, wholeness or emptiness cannot be hidden: that's
what it *means* to be Awake.
Before awakening, there are specific practices to cure us. These are
called Methods. If they appear to chop things, that is good, because
the "wholeness" purportedly seen or imagined by some before awakening
is illusion: it is not seen with the proper eye.
If "things" are really whole, or empty, to you, no amount of chopping
will chop anything, and you would not be remarking about it.
The imagined "wholeness" that so many wallow in is just samsara;
Buddha said get out of it, be Awake instead. He taught methods.
--Joe
> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> any attempt to chop life into bits of Chan or
> not Chan will hide this wholeness of life.
