Well, certainly, especially after awakening.

But, after awakening, wholeness or emptiness cannot be hidden: that's what it 
*means* to be Awake.

Before awakening, there are specific practices to cure us.  These are called 
Methods.  If they appear to chop things, that is good, because the "wholeness" 
purportedly seen or imagined by some before awakening is illusion: it is not 
seen with the proper eye.

If "things" are really whole, or empty, to you, no amount of chopping will chop 
anything, and you would not be remarking about it.

The imagined "wholeness" that so many wallow in is just samsara; Buddha said 
get out of it, be Awake instead.  He taught methods.

--Joe

> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> any attempt to chop life into bits of Chan or
> not Chan will hide this wholeness  of life.




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