If one will get into this, it may be best to take up basic archaeology at the 
very least. It's practically impossible to form logical opinions or conclusions 
without the ability to read scientific data, and I'm the first to confess to 
such lacking


Mel



________________________________
 From: William Rintala <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Chan and zen
 

  
The flood may actually have happened.  Several of the cultures around the 
Mediteranean talk of it. Think Gilgamesh and the disappearance of Atlantis.  
It's hypothesized that the the explosion of the island of Santorini. The island 
is the site of one of the largest volcanic eruptions in recorded history: the 
Minoan eruption (sometimes called the Thera eruption), occurred some 3600 years 
ago at the height of the Minoan civilization. The eruption left a large caldera 
surrounded by volcanic ash deposits hundreds of metres deep and may have led 
indirectly to the collapse of the Minoan civilization on the island of Crete, 
110 km (68 mi) to the south, through a gigantic tsunami. The theory holds that 
the Thera eruption is the source of the legend of Atlantis.[3]
 Bill (not Bill!) 




Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 




________________________________
 From: mike brown <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, August 3, 2012 8:16:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Chan and zen

  
Bill!,

That's an interesting idea. It sounds like something Joesph Campbell would say. 
Maybe our splitting from God represents the beginning of dualism and the desire 
for the search back to the One again? Interesting. Just as I'm sure people were 
awakened to Buddha Nature before Guatama, so to many of the stories in the 
Bible predate the first writing of the first scrolls. The Flood springs to 
mind. Still doesn't make the stories true tho.


Mike


________________________________
 From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2012, 2:01
Subject: [Zen] Re: Chan and zen


  
Mike,

I believe the story in the Bible of the 'Garden of Eden' is a mythologized 
description of what mankind's life was like before he became too dependent upon 
and attached to his rational mind (dualism - Knowledge of Good and Evil). 
Before that he lived at one with God - in the Garden of Eden.

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Merle,
> 
> It's a nice sentiment to try to do that, isn't it? I guess the problem is is 
> that we collect too much dust in our eyes as we acquire more of what the 
> world teaches us. I do have a vague memory/feeling tho,  of playing in my 
> parent's garden and it being what the Garden of Eden must be like. I would've 
> been less surprised to come across the Cheshire Cat than I would if I'd come 
> across the
 tabby next door.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 

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